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sacmarata
May 22, 2014Explorer
jus2shy wrote:brholt wrote:
Just "to keep the conversation going" you might note the following test:
16% hill climb test
The F250 gas 6.2 "beat" the Ram 2500 Diesel up the hill.
(It would be fun to see how the new Dodge 6.4 with the 8 speed transmission would do). Obviously gearing and transmissions play a big role in these kind of results.
There is no question that generally the diesels can pull more. However, the real question is how adequate are the gas engines. I think the answer is they are getting better and better. Only part of it is the engines themselves but another big part of it is the transmissions. Back in the days of 4 speed transmissions it was harder to keep the "peaky" gas engines in the "sweet" spot. Today's 6 and 8 speed transmissions really make a difference for the gas engines.
2010 is a little old. The Cummins back then was a bit peaky and only had a top torque value of 650 lb-ft. The current Cummins makes a lot more power at lower RPM's with new torque ratings at 800 to 850 lb-ft. I wonder if that test would still bode the same though. But I do agree that having more ratios to select keeps either engine in its sweet spot better.
I posted a web address. Copy and paste it.
Interview 100 full time hot shoters and ask em what they tow with and why.
Interview 100 cattle farmers and ask the same thing.
The preponderance of evidence will show that guys who depend on their rig to make them money use diesels. Why is that? are they all just stupid? No, experience pays dividends and these guys have the experience. the only folks I know that even begin to argue for gas to haul heavier loads is the camper crowd. Why? Because theres not as much day in day out experience in the Camper crowd as compared to hot shoters and cattle haulers.
It's not a p!$$!ng contest, it's just how things are.
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