Anyone own a Pioneer RL250?

drsteve wrote:

jerryjay11 wrote:

drsteve wrote:

jerryjay11 wrote:


I would have liked more than one roof vent fan other than what is in the bathroom...

Change out the woefully inadequate factory vent fan for a Fantastic Fan or Maxxair Fan. Either will pull enough air to vent the entire TT in no time. My Fantastic Fan makes a breeze coming in the windows on the other end of the TT.

... as well as corner drip edges for the shower when I don't park quite level.

Be aware that parking too far off level is hard on your propane powered fridge.

Yup, upgrading the vent fan would be my next project. As well as installing a vent cover so I can keep the vent open all the time.

Also being off level only affects the efficiency of a propane fridge, not harmful. And you don't have to be perfectly level, just helps to stay within the bubble of your level.

The manufacturers say 3 degrees side to side and 6 degrees front to back is acceptable. But prolonged operation off level can indeed damage an absorption fridge. Cooling units can be ruined by running overnight while extremely unlevel. More than 3 to 6 degrees and for a few hours, you will have some damage. The ammonia coolant will begin to crystallize in the upper tube area, and once crystallized, it stays crystallized. Over time, the crystals build up and cause a cooling problem.

I stand corrected on the 3 to 6 degrees. Though I am using a straight level rather than a graduated arched type. So as long as I can get the bubble in the center mark I am within these limits (I hope). But after reading how to properly use the graduated arched bubble level I think I will order me a set today.

As per specs, there is not much payload (725#). I don't know how HL weighs TT's to get a dry weight but sometimes it does not incl any options. If that's the case, then you are not going to have much carrying capacity for your personal stuff.

jerryjay11 wrote:

drsteve wrote:

jerryjay11 wrote:


I would have liked more than one roof vent fan other than what is in the bathroom...

Change out the woefully inadequate factory vent fan for a Fantastic Fan or Maxxair Fan. Either will pull enough air to vent the entire TT in no time. My Fantastic Fan makes a breeze coming in the windows on the other end of the TT.

... as well as corner drip edges for the shower when I don't park quite level.

Be aware that parking too far off level is hard on your propane powered fridge.

Yup, upgrading the vent fan would be my next project. As well as installing a vent cover so I can keep the vent open all the time.

Also being off level only affects the efficiency of a propane fridge, not harmful. And you don't have to be perfectly level, just helps to stay within the bubble of your level.

The manufacturers say 3 degrees side to side and 6 degrees front to back is acceptable. But prolonged operation off level can indeed damage an absorption fridge. Cooling units can be ruined by running overnight while extremely unlevel. More than 3 to 6 degrees and for a few hours, you will have some damage. The ammonia coolant will begin to crystallize in the upper tube area, and once crystallized, it stays crystallized. Over time, the crystals build up and cause a cooling problem.

drsteve wrote:

jerryjay11 wrote:


I would have liked more than one roof vent fan other than what is in the bathroom...

Change out the woefully inadequate factory vent fan for a Fantastic Fan or Maxxair Fan. Either will pull enough air to vent the entire TT in no time. My Fantastic Fan makes a breeze coming in the windows on the other end of the TT.

... as well as corner drip edges for the shower when I don't park quite level.

Be aware that parking too far off level is hard on your propane powered fridge.

Yup, upgrading the vent fan would be my next project. As well as installing a vent cover so I can keep the vent open all the time.

Also being off level only affects the efficiency of a propane fridge, not harmful. And you don't have to be perfectly level, just helps to stay within the bubble of your level.

jerryjay11 wrote:


I would have liked more than one roof vent fan other than what is in the bathroom...

Change out the woefully inadequate factory vent fan for a Fantastic Fan or Maxxair Fan. Either will pull enough air to vent the entire TT in no time. My Fantastic Fan makes a breeze coming in the windows on the other end of the TT.

... as well as corner drip edges for the shower when I don't park quite level.

Be aware that parking too far off level is hard on your propane powered fridge.

jerryjay11 wrote:

Blanco1 wrote:

trailer_newbe wrote:
I looked at the specifications. Only concern is it says the ceiling height is 6.67 feet. My neighbor has a 28’ Sonoma that has the same height. I’m right at 6’ and every time I stand up I feel like I’m going to hit the ceiling. I believe at the bathroom I actually need to duck because of the door frame. The other issue was the slide out. Because of the low main ceiling the slide has an even lower ceiling which means if you jump off the couch you will likely hit your head. Thankfully I experanced this in my neighbors trailer before we bought ours, so made sure we looked at this issue when getting ready to buy. You might be shorter but you will likely have a guest one day that might bump their head.

I'm actually also right at 6'0" & I didn't notice that?
Of course I also wasn't thinking about that at the time?

I'll pay attention before signing the paperwork & taking it home.

Had me thinking so I went out to the camper and yup, it's ceiling is 80" high. I stood on my tiptoes to give me an extra few inches from my 5'11" and still didn't feel any problem with the height.

Ok cool, I was looking the whole thing over & never noticed seeming to low of a ceiling?

Blanco1 wrote:

trailer_newbe wrote:
I looked at the specifications. Only concern is it says the ceiling height is 6.67 feet. My neighbor has a 28’ Sonoma that has the same height. I’m right at 6’ and every time I stand up I feel like I’m going to hit the ceiling. I believe at the bathroom I actually need to duck because of the door frame. The other issue was the slide out. Because of the low main ceiling the slide has an even lower ceiling which means if you jump off the couch you will likely hit your head. Thankfully I experanced this in my neighbors trailer before we bought ours, so made sure we looked at this issue when getting ready to buy. You might be shorter but you will likely have a guest one day that might bump their head.

I'm actually also right at 6'0" & I didn't notice that?
Of course I also wasn't thinking about that at the time?

I'll pay attention before signing the paperwork & taking it home.

Had me thinking so I went out to the camper and yup, it's ceiling is 80" high. I stood on my tiptoes to give me an extra few inches from my 5'11" and still didn't feel any problem with the height.

bstar1952 wrote:
I was looking at getting that same RV earlier this week from Camping World.Liked the floorplan and the exterior. When I got home did a little research and found out it is a wood framed coach. Wood framing in an RV is not something I want to deal with. Then I found reviews of the Heartland brands - Pioneer; as well as some of their other brands, did not fare very well. What was most glaring to me was all the posts about bad customer service from both Heartland as well as CW. Not bashing Heartland or CW but I decided to look elsewhere and at other brands. By the way, I'm aware that most reviews are posted by disgruntled customers but there were just to many saying the same thing on this brand. Of course all of the above is just my opinion from my research - good luck.

Just to add I have had better service with Heartland customer service, parts and service departments than CW. They are more apt to help than CW.

trailer_newbe wrote:
The thing I’ve noticed about my neighbors ceiling is it’s straight across where mine is arched.

Yeah I also prefer arched, but not a deal breaker.

trailer_newbe wrote:
I looked at the specifications. Only concern is it says the ceiling height is 6.67 feet. My neighbor has a 28’ Sonoma that has the same height. I’m right at 6’ and every time I stand up I feel like I’m going to hit the ceiling. I believe at the bathroom I actually need to duck because of the door frame. The other issue was the slide out. Because of the low main ceiling the slide has an even lower ceiling which means if you jump off the couch you will likely hit your head. Thankfully I experanced this in my neighbors trailer before we bought ours, so made sure we looked at this issue when getting ready to buy. You might be shorter but you will likely have a guest one day that might bump their head.

I'm actually also right at 6'0" & I didn't notice that?
Of course I also wasn't thinking about that at the time?

I'll pay attention before signing the paperwork & taking it home.