Anyone towing with a 2.7 EcoBoost?

BenK wrote:
Understand and have factored that as a new attribute

I do NOT like "highly integrated" in much of anything

Have had to replace too many combo fAX/copier/printer/scanner
because one of those "highly integrated" functions malfunctioned

Still have one that I use as a copier/printer (have another, higher
rate printer too)...but...once that one goes...back to single
function...depending on sales of course... :B

What with vehicles...especially margin driven by the fashion
statement crowd checking off every option box when ordering...our
TV's are no longer one of the lowest cost vehicles out there...but...
one of the most expensive...including cars...

Just the cost to have the dealer (mostly only the dealer will have
the proper computer diagnostic tooling) to spend hours just to diag

Many times, am seeing that they don't really know and just replace
compputer parts or the whole computer system in hopes of 'fixing it'


Back on Jeremiah's topic...I'm still waiting for the masses towing
heavy with this setup to reach 150K or more miles and the cost
of their rebuild or whatever they do

Am more of a fan of variable displacement of a V8 of 6L or more

Sport45 wrote:
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I keep mine a long time too. But I have a different train of thought on the matter. My fear is that it won't be the mechanical components, but rather the electronics that will break down and not be available when these vehicles are getting into their 20's. In that regard it's a rather level playing field between diesels, NA gas, and forced induction gas engines. Only today's most popular (not necessarily the best) engines will have electronic component availability.

In that regard, I suppose you could argue that "popular" today will define "best" in 2030...

Great insight Ben, thanks for the comments.

I am afraid that we are getting to the place where in vehicle rebuilds are becoming obsolete. Now instead of rebuilding components they are replacing components.

I.E. My Father In Law has a 07 Navigator with the 5.4 V8...this was Fords first effort at at Variable timing with the Ise of Cam Phasers...said cam phasers on his truck started "rattling" and now the motor has jumped time or something...it will not stay running...

The Ford Tech listened to the motor and said..."You Need a New Motor. every set of cams phasers we have replaced were a waste because we eventually replaced the motor."

I call this incompetence...unwilling to fix and only replace the motor.

Anyway...wait and see for me too...

I'm still waiting for the EcoDiesel verdict...so far there have been some issues. none that I can find with the CP4 fuel pump but several reports of catalytic converter failures and some hydrolocking in sub zero temps...overall it seems to be a pretty reliable truck.

for me right now, the future truck of mine is looking like a Ram Pentastar or a EcoDiesel..

Thanks!

Jeremiah