Arctic Fox 22G

And from my understanding, beginning in 2014, Northwood has a newer mattress called the NW TruRest Queen Mattress. According to Northwood, "The mattress is a Tru Rest mattress and features a thicker build, more coils, a stronger sidewall, and a pillow top. It’s very comfortable. The mattress is eight inches thick with the topper. It’s a great upgrade."

Caveman Charlie wrote:
I've never see one of those set in sleep sofa's up close and I never even seen one of them being set up and taken down on You Tube . I wonder what they are like. It might be nice to have the more seating area but, I wonder if them make the bed more uncomfortable when sleeping.

Not certain how things have "morphed" since we bought the 2012 (coming up on four years now!).
But the sleeper/sofa we have the cushions are not used for the bed, Rather Northwoods provided a (rather high-end) air mattress and inflator. Our guest have found the bed comfortable.

After a couple years we replaced the foam in the cushions for the sofa, they were just not holding up well and were becoming very uncomfortable.
The fabric was holding up well, just not the foam.

dieselenthusiast wrote:

Caveman Charlie wrote:
I've never see one of those set in sleep sofa's up close and I never even seen one of them being set up and taken down on You Tube . I wonder what they are like. It might be nice to have the more seating area but, I wonder if them make the bed more uncomfortable when sleeping.

I saw a picture of the sit & sleep sofa in a 22G in this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLNpUM-y364 The two drawers under the couch area offer less space than the open storage area that you get under the bed. The dealer alluded to the lack of comfort as compared to the standard bed for sleeping. My wife and I agreed that it wasn't something that we would use, plus we didn't want to lose that valuable storage space that you get under the standard bed.

Thanks

Caveman Charlie wrote:
I've never see one of those set in sleep sofa's up close and I never even seen one of them being set up and taken down on You Tube . I wonder what they are like. It might be nice to have the more seating area but, I wonder if them make the bed more uncomfortable when sleeping.

I saw a picture of the sit & sleep sofa in a 22G in this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLNpUM-y364 The two drawers under the couch area offer less space than the open storage area that you get under the bed. The dealer alluded to the lack of comfort as compared to the standard bed for sleeping. My wife and I agreed that it wasn't something that we would use, plus we didn't want to lose that valuable storage space that you get under the standard bed.

I've never see one of those set in sleep sofa's up close and I never even seen one of them being set up and taken down on You Tube . I wonder what they are like. It might be nice to have the more seating area but, I wonder if them make the bed more uncomfortable when sleeping.

Here's what we are ordering:

Standard Run Features:

Northwood Built, Independently Certified, Off-Road Chassis
Fully Welded, Thick-Wall Aluminum Frame Construction
One-Piece, Corona Treated, Continuous Fiberglass
Hot, Polyurethane Laminated, Multi-Layered Substrate Walls
High Density Block Foam Insulation
Wide-Body Floorplan
Universal Lube Axles
15" Aluminum Wheels / Tires & White Mod Spare
Shocks On All Four Wheels
Stabilizer Jacks
All-Conditions/Four Seasons Insulation With R-18 Ceiling
R-15 Reflective Foil Insulation in Roof
Heated Holding Tanks / Cathedral Arched Ceiling
Aerodynamic One Piece Front Cap w/BackRoad Armor
2 Independently Switched LED Hitch Lights
Easy Access LP Cover / Diamond Plate Bumper Wrap
LED Exterior Lighting
Roof Rack & Ladder
SLAM Door Latches on Pass Thru Storage Doors
12V Light in Storage Compartment
LPG Quick Connect & Black Water Flush System
Large Exterior Entry Grab Handle / Entry Door Friction Hinge
Exterior Shower / 2 Afox Logo Director's Chairs
Semi-Automatic Winterization/By-Pass System
6 Gal DSI Gas/Elect Quick Recovery Water Heater
13.5m BTU Air Conditioner w/Condensation-Resistant Ducting
Carefree Travel'R 12V Awning
Travel'R Awning Adj Pitch Hardware
TV Antenna
Outside Speakers/Battery Disconnect
Tinted Windows
Satellite Ready / Solar Ready
LED Interior Utility Lighting
Interior Command Center
Roller Bearing Drawer Glides
Fabric Night Shade Window Treatments
19" 110/12v LED TV & AM/FM/CD/DVD Player w/Bluetooth
Smoke, LPG & CO Leak Detectors
Booth Dinette
Charge Wizard Residential,
Large Fridge (6 Cu Ft) w/ Multiple Raised Panels
Kitchen Skylight w/ Shade
Fan Vent (Bedroom)
Porcelain, Foot-Pedal Toilet / Bath Skylight
Glass Shower Enclosure / Shower Pan
NW TruRest Queen Mattress w/ Bedspread
Built-In Laundry Chute
12-Volt Power Jack

These are options that we ordered:

Microwave Delete with Cabinet Door
Addit'l Fan Vent-Bathroom (Exhaust Only)
Thermal Pane Windows
Generator Ready w/11 m BTU AC (Del 13.5 AC)
2.5 Onan LP Generator
160 Watt Solar Panel

These are options that we did not order:

Battery Box Kit
15K Air Conditioner w/ Ducting
Addit'l Fan Vent-Kitchen(Cannot Have with AC)
Powered Scissor Jacks, Front and Rear
Storm Windows
Sit & Sleep Sofa
Bed Bedroom Carpet w/Pad
BBQ Grill w/ Bracket

PAThwacker wrote:
October $2100 maintenance repair to the trailblazer, November $1,000 rear brakes/ebrake repair on the sub, December $1200 repair to the septic pump on the stick and brick. How is that for 3 months of shyt hitting the fan?

If I were you, I would sell everything and start over. It's much easier to be debt free and buildup than it is to be in the hole and play catchup. Todays economy is tough, and much tougher than the media is letting on. Lastly, I would recommend following a modified version of the Dave Ramsey Debt Free Plan. He's the one who gave me the idea to cut up all our credit cards in 2008. Dave Ramsey doesn't always give the best mathematical advice, but his psychological approach to paying off debt was something that we could relate to.

PAThwacker wrote:

I was 30 bought a home, started a family, and after 12 years in the biopharma industry I lost my job.
Globalism started, and I went through 3 acquisitions before losing it all. Now its consulting for 3 years, zero benefits, no retirement fund, and tremendous debt building.
All that appears to be great now, might be up shyts creek without a paddle in less than a year. I would never spend anything more than 10k for any type of recreation item. My tow vehicle is 10 years old, my commuter car 10 years old, quad 10 years old, house 30 years old.
Pay for private family health insurance: 4 catastrophic high deductible plans, kids in daycare, and commuting costs through the roof!!!!!!


Building a home???? Brand new never lived foreclosures all over, 1 in 4 currently or will be going into foreclosure. You are warned!

I'm sorry to hear about your misfortunes. This is why it's important to live within our means and have a large safety net. We made huge financial adjustments 6 years ago and avoided any damage during the economic downturn. We have more assets now than ever before and our debt ratio is 5%. We can finance the Arctic Fox for 20 years which will make the payments minimal. We can pull out a 30 year home mortgage. With our current salary, we can build the home and have it paid for in 15 years while continuing to put $1,500 into a monthly savings account. Or, we could sell one of our assets and have the house paid off in 10 years. Trust me, I was fiscally conservative when I was 20 years old, but I'm better equipped than you might think. I don't disclose everything on a public forum. ;)

October $2100 maintenance repair to the trailblazer, November $1,000 rear brakes/ebrake repair on the sub, December $1200 repair to the septic pump on the stick and brick. How is that for 3 months of shyt hitting the fan?

dieselenthusiast wrote:

beemerphile1 wrote:
I highly endorse being debt free.

I do too, and we now take it very serious. My wife and I are in our late 30's, so it's not easy, especially when building a home. By the time we are in our late 40's, we should be 100% debt free pending an economic collapse or some major crisis.

beemerphile1 wrote:
You are looking at a nice TT and I understand the desire. We are interested in the Arctic Fox 25R but the closest dealer is almost 300 miles. It will be a long drive to go look at one.

According to MapQuest, we drove 237.50 miles through the Gila Mountains to get to our nearest dealer. The estimated travel time was 4 hours and 23 minutes. It was worth the trip. We made a small vacation out of it and headed to the hot springs and soaked for a few days. :B

beemerphile1 wrote:
Keep in mind, you can get the same "therapy" with a $5,000 TT as you can with a $30,000 TT.

I thought the same thing, but trust me, the cheaper trailers don't holdup or have the ability to do what we need them to do. Economical trailers do not have the tire size, ride height, suspension, or chassis to go off-road. Even our rooftop A/C unit worked itself loose which required roadside repair. Due to cheap exterior seems and poor construction designs, the trailer also leaks water, especially when driving through heavy rains. Three season trailers lack insulation and design to keep the water system from freezing. The Yamaha EF3000iSEB generator can not run our rooftop A/C in higher temperatures or in higher altitude. Economical trailers lack the battery bank and propane supply to stay off grid for extended times. The lack of roof and floor insulation causes the heater and A/C to run constantly which further depletes fuel reserves. The smaller refrigerator and freezer make it hard to pack much food in an economical trailer. After owning a variety of economical campers, I can honestly say that they can't do what we need them to do. They are more of a headache, which is far from the therapy that I speak of.

beemerphile1 wrote:
Think of the future, how does the purchase of this TT with credit play into your long range financial plans? Now run the same line of reasoning with a $5,000 TT that is paid for.

We're in the very beginning stages of building a home. Buying the property, drilling the well, bringing in electricity, installing an underground well house, installing well pumps and components, installing a septic, putting in a portable 12 X 28 storage shed, and building a driveway has consumed all the cash that we had in the bank. We are debt free, so the only two payments will be the Arctic Fox and home mortgage once we begin construction. The goal would be to have the house paid off in 15 years and the Arctic Fox paid off in 5 years.

I was 30 bought a home, started a family, and after 12 years in the biopharma industry I lost my job.
Globalism started, and I went through 3 acquisitions before losing it all. Now its consulting for 3 years, zero benefits, no retirement fund, and tremendous debt building.
All that appears to be great now, might be up shyts creek without a paddle in less than a year. I would never spend anything more than 10k for any type of recreation item. My tow vehicle is 10 years old, my commuter car 10 years old, quad 10 years old, house 30 years old.
Pay for private family health insurance: 4 catastrophic high deductible plans, kids in daycare, and commuting costs through the roof!!!!!!


Building a home???? Brand new never lived foreclosures all over, 1 in 4 currently or will be going into foreclosure. You are warned!