I'm really disappointed in the change for the 2020 cabinets in the Arctic Fox truck campers. So much so that it has stopped me from purchasing one. It's not only the new color that I don't like, but that the wrapped wood around the cabinet doors (face frame) looks like something from the 1970s, and that it may start to peel. It just looks awful to me. The cabinet face doors don't even match the color of the wrapped wood anymore! Look at the 2017-2018 models - the wood color was perfect and everything matched and looked of higher quality. Even the spice rack / book shelf looks to now have that ugly wrapped wood:https://northwoodmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Camper/990/Camper_990_Windswept_Serenity__(13).jpg?bwg=1559065350https://northwoodmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Camper/990/Camper_990_Windswept_Serenity__(15).jpg?bwg=1559065350I don't know what they are thinking. I really like Arctic Fox but this is, in my opinion, a terrible decision. It has ruined it for me. I've also read that they have raised prices 8% for the 2020 model -- so they want me to pay much more for what I consider much less now. I'm not paying $40,000 or more to have to look at that ugly wrapped wood all the time that doesn't even match the cabinet doors. The cabinetry is one of the most important things to get right and they had it right, which makes it all the more disappointing.

Gotta admit, not matching is bad. Are you suggesting that the new cabinets are "wrapped" like vinyl/laminate not real wood? If so, that's cheap.As far as looking like the 70's, well, everything that is old is new again. I could say the same bout my 80s/90's looking oak looking cabinets with cheezy gold hardware in the 03 we have and 06 we had. It's a camper, make it functional, make it look outdoorsy. Not like a custom home from 1988 or 1978!Maybe some nice knotty alder with a light stain, or a distressed farmhouse looking painted cabinets or how about save 500lbs and get rid of the 1000bf of lumber inside and get lightweight and look more like a Cirrus or those upside down campers that RobertRyan posts up?

That's why there are different manufactures. I looked at the 2020 5er's and TT's and didn't notice anything like that. Go look at something else, we found Lance to be cheesy and bought an AF in 04.

My understanding is the cabinet doors are the same wood as before, just stained a new color. The wrapped part is the face frame (everything but the doors) as shown in the links I gave above. If you look at the 2017-2018 years, the face frame looks to be real wood (not laminated or wrapped). It may have been wrapped as well but the new version definitely looks cheap to me. Just look at those links I gave and compare them to the wood of 2017-2018 years.

I looked at an Arctic Fox 29-5K 5th wheel at the Portland RV show, and saw the same poor cabinetry. Rails and stiles didn't fit flush. I was really disappointed.

My 2018 "Silver Fox" is wrapped as well. While the finish is totally fake, it's well done with 3D grain patterns and matches the real wood doors perfectly. The wrapped wood is some kind of lesser grade solid wood. Quality of workmanship is terrible. 90% of screws are stripped, every door and drawer front was crooked. The list goes on and on. Last NW product for me.I'm glad to see they're moving towards lighter color wood but that's hideous. Looks like a badly done cherry.

Arctic Fox's change to cheaper-looking cabinetry ...

Slymer
Explorer
Nov 23, 2019
I couldn't agree more with JN99. We love the cabinets in our 2013 811. They DID have it right but that new stuff does look terrible,. and cheap.
Slymer
Explorer
Nov 23, 2019
I couldn't agree more with JN99. We love the cabinets in our 2013 811. They DID have it right but that new stuff does look terrible,. and cheap.
specta
Explorer
Nov 15, 2019
JN99 wrote:
specta, that wood looks real. Doesn't look like wrapped wood. The good old days.

It was real "heavy" too.
otrfun
Explorer II
Nov 15, 2019
Vinyl wrap in itself wouldn't convince us to not to purchase a camper. However, have to admit Northern Lite's almost exclusive use of wood (and wood veneer) on their cabinets and trim, plus their heavy use of premium-quality 11-13 ply birch plywood behind the scenes, was one of several factors that convinced us to go with a NL. Saw very little of this in the Lance and Artic Fox campers we looked at a year ago. Of course, everything is a trade-off. NL is absolutely not shy about passing off the cost of using these higher quality materials in their MSRP--lol!
JN99
Explorer
Nov 15, 2019
specta, that wood looks real. Doesn't look like wrapped wood. The good old days.
specta
Explorer
Nov 15, 2019
jaycocreek wrote:
Times change and so do colors for RV's interiors..For those that have been around truck campers and RV's for a bunch of years,in the 50's and 60's the sinks/tubs/toilets and refrigerator/ice box's were green and yellow..Back then it was kool but now..YUK..

Here's my 1963 Goldcoast 49er with green appliances. :E
jaycocreek
Explorer II
Nov 15, 2019
Times change and so do colors for RV's interiors..For those that have been around truck campers and RV's for a bunch of years,in the 50's and 60's the sinks/tubs/toilets and refrigerator/ice box's were green and yellow..Back then it was kool but now..YUK..

One of the draws to the Arctic Fox for me was the interior colors, that now have changed it seems..
specta
Explorer
Nov 15, 2019
jaycocreek wrote:

Yes they are and it is nasty in my opinion..

They new gray that seams to be in every new home is very unappealing to me.
jaycocreek
Explorer II
Nov 15, 2019
deltabravo wrote:
jaycocreek wrote:
Wait until they start doing the cabinetry in white like they are on the trailers and fifth wheels..Yuk is all I can say..

Are they really doing that now? That would be nasty!

Yes they are and it is nasty in my opinion..This was one of my favorite fifth wheels...Jayco HT..
deltabravo
Nomad
Nov 15, 2019
jaycocreek wrote:
Wait until they start doing the cabinetry in white like they are on the trailers and fifth wheels..Yuk is all I can say..

Are they really doing that now? That would be nasty!