Attention Grand Design Owners...

BarneyS wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

goducks10 wrote:
The HA/PP are semi permanently fixed to the tongue so it's part of the TW. Same as adding a couple more batteries.

I disagree. When any style of hitch is hooked up, they are semi permanently attached to the TT.... But none of that weight should be used to calculate TW.... TW percentage is a figure used to determine the INHERENT stability of the TT alone....If you cheat on this figure, you only cheat yourself.

And I disagree with you. :)
Do you not add the weight of a standard hitch to the payload of a truck before it is hooked up to the trailer? The same exact thing applies to the HA/PP hitches. They are left on the trailer all the time just like the batteries or propane bottles and IMO should be counted as part of the tongue weight. If you weigh the tongue, you put down the front jack on a scale and the result you get would be a weight that includes the HA/PP hitch. It is not removed and inserted into the truck like a standard hitch - only the stinger is , which becomes just like the hitch head and shank of a normal hitch and would not be include in the tongue weight. The hitch becomes, in essence, another coupler- just a very fancy, expensive one which is attached to the trailer tongue and should be counted in the tongue weight. :W
Barney