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RobertRyan wrote:
We use Off Road Caravans to replace larger Truck Campers. They can go off road as much and they have lot more amentities Smaller TC's and Hybrid Caravans are they way to go for really tough Off Road environments
Different, not better or a replacement. Can't tow a large trailer with a trailer on the hitch already. That's why most kinds exist in the US. ;) - RobertRyanExplorer
SidecarFlip wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
One thing I don't care for on them is the side entrance. I much prefer a rear entrance on a smaller unit, but then again, just me. The FWC Grandby also has a side entrance btw. Looks to me like a royal PITA for in and out and where do you attach a set of steps?
The hybrid is cute but not my idea of a versatile unit.
I've never considered having a 'security door' on a TC. Secure from what? Pretty easy to defeat any RV door anyway if you want to gain entrance. Oooops, forgot, it's Oz, not here. Here we usually have a handgun somewhere close by when remote camping, least I do. Never leave home without it.
Hybrids vastly outnumber traditional TC's. Through in Campertrailers and that number becomes even less in Australia
Security doors are pretty common on a lot of RV's in Australia, stops opportune theft.
'Security doors' are alien to me. The only place you see them are on houses in the inner city 'hoods' where people have theft issues.
Heck, out here we don't even lock the doors.
Most every RV I've ever see, the door latch and striker plate and flimsy and easy to defeat anyway.
Much more secure than that. Opportune theft primarily and to keep insects out. - RobertRyanExplorer
jimh425 wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
US units appeared to be very basic, dark poor colour choice. and flimsy. Especially the All Aluminium unit.
Obviously, the long triple slides with fireplaces, tvs, large holding tanks, basements, are not "basic". :) Host/Eagle Cap don't have dark interiors. I'm not into the dark ones, but somebody must be. They make a lot of RVs that way. But, you also couldn't carry them on the same truck!
I agree some other models from the US are basic.
We use Off Road Caravans to replace larger Truck Campers. They can go off road as much and they have lot more amentities Smaller TC's and Hybrid Caravans are they way to go for really tough Off Road environments - SidecarFlipExplorer III
RobertRyan wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
One thing I don't care for on them is the side entrance. I much prefer a rear entrance on a smaller unit, but then again, just me. The FWC Grandby also has a side entrance btw. Looks to me like a royal PITA for in and out and where do you attach a set of steps?
The hybrid is cute but not my idea of a versatile unit.
I've never considered having a 'security door' on a TC. Secure from what? Pretty easy to defeat any RV door anyway if you want to gain entrance. Oooops, forgot, it's Oz, not here. Here we usually have a handgun somewhere close by when remote camping, least I do. Never leave home without it.
Hybrids vastly outnumber traditional TC's. Through in Campertrailers and that number becomes even less in Australia
Security doors are pretty common on a lot of RV's in Australia, stops opportune theft.
'Security doors' are alien to me. The only place you see them are on houses in the inner city 'hoods' where people have theft issues.
Heck, out here we don't even lock the doors.
Most every RV I've ever see, the door latch and striker plate and flimsy and easy to defeat anyway. - jimh406Explorer III
RobertRyan wrote:
US units appeared to be very basic, dark poor colour choice. and flimsy. Especially the All Aluminium unit.
Obviously, the long triple slides with fireplaces, tvs, large holding tanks, basements, are not "basic". :) Host/Eagle Cap don't have dark interiors. I'm not into the dark ones, but somebody must be. They make a lot of RVs that way. But, you also couldn't carry them on the same truck!
I agree some other models from the US are basic. - RobertRyanExplorer
jimh425 wrote:
They seem really basic, so I hope the build quality is good for what you are getting for a relatively high cost.
US units appeared to be very basic, dark poor colour choice. and flimsy. Especially the All Aluminium unit.I spoke to a Caravan manufacturer rep at another stand at a show. He could not understand how the importers could sell them. Well they struggled too and eventually dropped them. - RobertRyanExplorer
SidecarFlip wrote:
One thing I don't care for on them is the side entrance. I much prefer a rear entrance on a smaller unit, but then again, just me. The FWC Grandby also has a side entrance btw. Looks to me like a royal PITA for in and out and where do you attach a set of steps?
The hybrid is cute but not my idea of a versatile unit.
I've never considered having a 'security door' on a TC. Secure from what? Pretty easy to defeat any RV door anyway if you want to gain entrance. Oooops, forgot, it's Oz, not here. Here we usually have a handgun somewhere close by when remote camping, least I do. Never leave home without it.
Hybrids vastly outnumber traditional TC's. Through in Campertrailers and that number becomes even less in Australia
Security doors are pretty common on a lot of RV's in Australia, stops opportune theft. - SidecarFlipExplorer IIIOne thing I don't care for on them is the side entrance. I much prefer a rear entrance on a smaller unit, but then again, just me. The FWC Grandby also has a side entrance btw. Looks to me like a royal PITA for in and out and where do you attach a set of steps?
The hybrid is cute but not my idea of a versatile unit.
I've never considered having a 'security door' on a TC. Secure from what? Pretty easy to defeat any RV door anyway if you want to gain entrance. Oooops, forgot, it's Oz, not here. Here we usually have a handgun somewhere close by when remote camping, least I do. Never leave home without it. - RobertRyanExplorer
SidecarFlip wrote:
Nor do I and we both know that MSRP and street price on any RV of any type are 2 different things entirely.
I might be a minority but I really like the 'Euro' sanitary interiors (why I like FWC). Simple to maintain, bright and airy simple to clean. I see they have the same windows that Northstar and FWC uses. I'm out on the inner door, looks like a chain link fence but that could be an Australian requirement. Like to see a picture of the berth arrangement other than the verbal sescription and I find it kind of amazing a Ford Ranger will carry one. I've always considered a Ranger to be a tiny pickup. My wife had one with a V6 and 4x4 and it went like a scalded dog but carrying capacity was minimal, plus the bed is short.
They look put together nicely. From the pictures, fit and finish looks to be better than what we get served here...
Jim, if you want sticker shock, take a gander at an optioned FWC on their website or a Hallmark. You can get into real serious buck range with either and the Hallmark is a P'Up. to boot... (as is the FWC). Hallmark has no dealers so it's factory direct and the price is the price, no street pricing there.
Several answers: Yes fit and finish is better than the US models. I have seen Lance, the All Aluminium TC, and two others ( Northstar being one)from the US, not that impressive.
Global Ranger is in name only, it is as big as a 2003 F150. Payloads are a lot greater than you could possible get in a US Ranger, similar to a HD F150. Pickup has a base weight of 4,900lb
" Chain link fence" combination insect door and security door
This their own design Truck Camper from the Lance distributors put on a Mazda Pickup virtually identical to the Ranger.. To put TC's in perspective in Australia, they are only a small fraction of the Hybrid Caravan Manufacturers, that seem to be growing everyday.. Hybrid Caravans are extreme Off Road RV's
A Hybrid Caravan: Track Trailer Savannah
Track Trailer TVan - RobertRyanExplorer
SidecarFlip wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
Hopefully, the build quality with the Oz unit is better than the American counterparts...
Build quality of the Millard is pretty good. Not something you can say about the US imported units. Also interiors are not too our tastes
I take it that Aussies don't think much of Lance then....(Lance offers their units is Oz I believe)...
I like the Mallard interior, definitely European. Probably why I like Four Wheel Campers as well. They also lean toward the 'Euro' clean look with bright interiors too.
Mallard should look at exporting them to this country. I believe there would be a market here for something of higher quality than what the domestic builders turn out.
TC Manufacturer is Millard. If you look in the historical section of tTruck Camper Magazine, you can see a 1972 version. I doubt Angela and Gordon knew it was Australian., they do now. Saw the Lance with my Sister at a regional Show. Talked to the distributor and he was trying to release his own Truck Camper brand. He mentioned people had problems with the look of the interiors. Would be a problem for one Caravan company to release in the US , cost an the seemingly low recognition of TC's in the US, the RVIA situation
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