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RoyBell
Explorer
Feb 08, 2016

Back and forth between F250/Ram 2500

I don't want this to turn into a brand war, but I know it will.

I was set on the Cummins. After driving one it felt a little "dull" to me. Interior and options are fantastic as is the dependable drivetrain and 100K warranty.

Coming from a gasser currently, the F250 drove like one. The diesel was quieter than my 5.7 Tundra. The engine was responsive and peppy and the truck was pretty nimble.

Interior was on the Ford was pretty dated compared to the Ram with less cab storage.

I also like the larger factory tank on the Ram over the Ford as well. I think the Ford looks better than the Ram (subjective). Ford made in US, Dodge made in Mexico. If buying an American truck I'd like to see it at least assembled in America.

For those of you that chose one over the other, how did you come to your conclusion? Just wondering if there is something I may be missing to help make a better determination. The salesman don't really seem to know much about the trucks and when I ask how their truck beats their competitors they don't really have an answer. They both seem to be pretty split on their offerings. Where one excels, the other falls short and vice versa.

One concern about the F250 is that next year is a brand new model which may hurt resale if I get a 16.

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  • So there you have it; Ram no, Ford yes?

    Wait a minute: Ram yes, Ford no?

    Pick the one you like.
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    Nope, the Cummins will not be as "Peppy" as a Duramax or Scorpion, but it is a lot more torquey. This torque is what moves the load, HP is what makes it go fast.
    Look at Cummins12V98 signature moving 37,800# with 385hp and 865 FT. LB. of TORQUE! He does this all over the west coast, up and down hills and mountains.

    I run at 19,500# combined and only have about 280hp and 560 lb. ft. of torque, and do just fine in the hills with a 3.55 rear end.

    One last thing to think about Ford makes the Scorpion engine, making them the sole suppler of OEM parts.

    Cummins builds not only the 6.7, and supply parts for the 5.9, and OTR truck engines. I can go to a Ram dealer for parts, or Cummins NW locally for parts, it never ceases to amaze me that I get the best prices at Cummins NW.
  • I would go with a F350 hands down. In addition to what cummins98 said the ram is built in Mexico and ram is a foreign owned. As for the ford it's engine is built in Mexico with us supplied parts and the engine is just downright a strong performer. In addition the ford is built in the US by a US company so more of the profits stay in the US.

    Aside from the above the ford is getting dated but has been the benchmark for years and the engine/transmission is second to none in towing performance.

    Having said that I have a '12 Super Duty with 86k miles and not a single problem to date used as a daily driver, tows a camper, boat, utility trailer/tractor and plan to keep it many years. If I was purchasing a new truck today I would go back to another super duty.
  • The Ford will feel and probably is faster than the I6 Cummins. Any V8 diesel will power up faster than a torquey inline six. As to your question about why I bought a Ram over a Ford or even GM.
    I bought the Ram because at the time (2012) Ford was having issues with the CP.4 HPFP. And GM wasn't offering much in the way of rebates. Ford was denying warranty claims when some got water in the fuel. Apparently the warning system didn't warn the drivers in time. Repairs were running at $10,000 and up.
    Ram still uses the very reliable and less sensitive CP.3 HPFP. Almost never hear of any CP.3 failures. GM and VW have had the same issues but repaired them under warranty. I also had some negative warranty issues with Ford on my previous F150. Was a Ford guy forever but after hearing of the issues with the CP.4, and all the trouble with the 6.0 and 6.4 as well as the way Ford handled some warranty issues on my F150 I switched to Ram. Couldn't be happier. As far as where its made goes. Well those U.S Ford union workers sure didn't stand behind me with my F150 problems. I'm pro union but just because you're union doesn't mean you do everything right.
  • We started out with the 2012 F250 diesel and loved it. When we decided we wanted a heavier fiver, we were able to find a good deal/trade for a 2012 F350. We love it too. They both ride comfortably and I don't mind using it for a grocery mobile!
  • First yes the RAM HD trucks are "assembled in Mexico. I don't like that but not enough to deter owning the best of the big 3 IMHO. Fact is the majority of the components come from USA along with the Cummins/Aisin and American axles. Fish will come along and tell you the Cummins block is from Mexico. This is true, the nickel content is high and makes a good quality cast iron. The block is Machined at the Cummins engine plant.

    Fords Diesel is MADE IN MEXICO. I think Ford makes great trucks but the engine is what what stops me from buying a Diesel Ford.

    GM makes a great truck also but I feel the RAM/Cummins/Aisin is a much stronger combo. It would be my second choice.

    As far as 2500/2500 I would start off right and go with the 3500 SRW LB with the Aisin and factory rear air. With this combo you can safely tow a 14K 5er. Also with the rear air ride you will not need bags and with the long bed you won't need to buy a slider and limit your self with toolbox storage.
  • I would only add the Ram 3500 would have 1000+ pounds of payload over the F250.

    All else being equal, I would pick the Ram.

    S
  • Curious why you are comparing the F250 to the 3500, rather than the F350.

    As far as everything else, it is all subjective. What one person likes best about one, the next person likes the other better. Buy what you like, not what everyone else likes.
  • At the endof the day, BOTH should do the job you want. Choose the one with the best fitting seats! After that, it is a **** shoot!

    Marty