Big Three road tests

Mich

Now before anybody says anything. Please read up on how HP is measured. O, NO, I forgot, you can't measure HP. It is the function of Torque

HP=RPM*torque/5252. This is a figure that actually was picked, nothing scientific about it at all.. Not like torque which can be measured on a dyno.

HP is supposed to measure work over time. But it could just as easily been called ox power. The term horse power was chosen as a sales pitch to sell the steam engine.

If you have '0' torque you have '0' HP. You can't have 1 HP and '0' torque. But you can have 1 Ft lb of torque and 0 HP

The DMAX has 397 HP. 765 of torque.

Dodge Cummins 385 HP 865 of torque.

Even if it is the 370/850 the figures stink. And it would be the lower quality transmission than the 385/865

The DMAX comes as 260hp/525 torque. Should they have chosen it to run against the 385/865 ram. That wouldn't be quality reporting would it.

(You can still get the small DMAX in the vans.)

The difference in HP could be the result of higher RPM of a very small amount.

Now if the Alison first gear was very low compared to the Ford and Ram. The DMAX would create a great deal of torque in first gear that might lead to a initial lead that might be insurmountable within a 1/4 mile.

I'll say it a different way. Something stinks.

Either the tests are faulty.
The Dmax is under rated.
The Ford and Ram are over rated.

None of the 3 above have anything to do with my sisters or hookers.

It appears the customer is being deceived in some form. That is what concerns me.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

buddyIam wrote:
Something seems amiss. First the fact that there was a quarter mile test. And then looking at the results, the two with the highest power ratings score near equal times. Yet the Lowest rated truck bests the other two by 3/4 second empty and .9 seconds loaded

They seem to say it was the Alison that was the difference. I just don't accept that unless the Alison had a much lower 1st gear. If that is the case/ does the GM fall flat on it's face in a 30 to 70 MPH test.

I would accept the 30 to 70 mph test as a test experienced by most people that tow.

Hu?? :h

Since when does Ram have more power then GM?
GM makes 397 HP and Ram makes 370 HP.

And before anybody starts; torque is not horsepower and never will be.
As far as Fords HP numbers; test after test has shown they are cheating like %@%*(*@!!!!

Not that it matters much, but they have the numbers wrong for the RAM.

It was either 385hp/850tq (not 370hp), or it was 385hp/865tq (if it was a 2015), or it was 370hp/800tq (if it had the 68RFE). They list 370hp/850tq which isn't ones of the choices you get in the 6.7L Cummins.

Wow! You guys act like somebody called your sister a hooker.

They're just stupid trucks, not a religion!

Sorry I posted the link.

No kidding!!!

Wow! You guys act like somebody called your sister a hooker.

They're just stupid trucks, not a religion!

Sorry I posted the link.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

buddyIam wrote:
Something seems amiss. First the fact that there was a quarter mile test. And then looking at the results, the two with the highest power ratings score near equal times. Yet the Lowest rated truck bests the other two by 3/4 second empty and .9 seconds loaded

They seem to say it was the Alison that was the difference. I just don't accept that unless the Alison had a much lower 1st gear. If that is the case/ does the GM fall flat on it's face in a 30 to 70 MPH test.

I would accept the 30 to 70 mph test as a test experienced by most people that tow.

Hu?? :h

Since when does Ram have more power then GM?
GM makes 397 HP and Ram makes 370 HP.

And before anybody starts; torque is not horsepower and never will be.
As far as Fords HP numbers; test after test has shown they are cheating like %@%*(*@!!!!

Plus you cannot take HP out of context or look it as the only variable. Vehicle weight, gearing, traction, etc all play vital rolls in a drag race.

buddyIam wrote:
Something seems amiss. First the fact that there was a quarter mile test. And then looking at the results, the two with the highest power ratings score near equal times. Yet the Lowest rated truck bests the other two by 3/4 second empty and .9 seconds loaded

They seem to say it was the Alison that was the difference. I just don't accept that unless the Alison had a much lower 1st gear. If that is the case/ does the GM fall flat on it's face in a 30 to 70 MPH test.

I would accept the 30 to 70 mph test as a test experienced by most people that tow.

Hu?? :h

Since when does Ram have more power then GM?
GM makes 397 HP and Ram makes 370 HP.

And before anybody starts; torque is not horsepower and never will be.
As far as Fords HP numbers; test after test has shown they are cheating like %@%*(*@!!!!

Something seems amiss. First the fact that there was a quarter mile test. And then looking at the results, the two with the highest power ratings score near equal times. Yet the Lowest rated truck bests the other two by 3/4 second empty and .9 seconds loaded

They seem to say it was the Alison that was the difference. I just don't accept that unless the Alison had a much lower 1st gear. If that is the case/ does the GM fall flat on it's face in a 30 to 70 MPH test.

I would accept the 30 to 70 mph test as a test experienced by most people that tow.

Thanks!