Bumpyroad I think I see what your saying I am looking at over all quality also but I don't see where my issue is a small area, in fact it is of great concern to me. I have dug as deep as I can into the over all construction of these units and will most likely go with the Ascend because of the construction of the outer walls, roof and floor being compositek covered with fiberglass. That being said if the shower dumps into the black I won't. Thanks for the info.
Bigbird65, which tt do you have?
I talked to someone in service in the rv dealer ship I bought my current from and he said they just don't make them that way. Well he must not have worked there long because the one I have came from there and they sell alot of that model. It is hard for me to belive that knowone else has brought this to their attention. I don't understand why this is a big secret or why knowone belives me. Again my Conquest 19BHC is plumbed with the shower going into the black. Just for kicks I looked at a AmeriLite 19BHC and the sales and service there also tell me it is not plumbed that way. They lied or keep it a secret so they can sell it, or didn't know and don't want to know. It is the same thing as conquest. So I am looking for consumers that have products that are plumbed WRONG. Also know one wants to run some water thru.