jimh425 wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
The new ones are most likely WORSE.
So, why do you have a 2015?
I had a Lance actually, one of that vintage but mine had the 'optional' one piece aluminum sheet roof. I also had the lower skirt issues and the pizz poor jack mounts and I rebuilt everything in my own shop. When I saw the video (I watched it all) I was unpleasantly reminded of exactly what mine looked like under the filon skin. That skin hide all the substandard workmanship until it ages (and rots). At least the roof and substructure was okay, but the lowers and the mounts were **** right from the factory.
I do have a new one but I bought a pop up instead and I was careful when I bought it to one, make sure that the lowers had no seamed filon, my lowers are one piece and with the minimal amount of intrusion (no outside doors to leak). When I bought the new one I was already aware of the substandard workmanship that all RV's in general share and I've modified mine accordingly as the need arises. Always ongoing project but starting with a new unit, I won't have any surprises underneath (lowers) like I did with the Lance. With the Lance, considering what it cost, I was shocked at the poor grade of materials used in it's construction and the way it was put together. I learned some valuable lessons and I applied them to the new one when I bought it.
The other thing I do that insures it will last (and why I opted for a popup instead of a hardside), besides being easier to haul and the low overall height, is, my Palomino is kept inside a heated and air conditioned storage space in my tractor shop when not in use. IOW, unless I'm planning on taking it somewhere, it's ALWAYS under roof ad protected from the elements. Fits right through the 10 foot high overhead door (on a dolly).
So yes, I rebuilt my Lance, took 2 years and subsequently sold it and bought another typically substandard built TC but I was educated before hand so I knew what to expect before hand. IOW, no surprises.
That video was EXACTLY what my Lance looked like under that pretty filon skin and I suspect mist camper do, to some extent, depending on age and how they are stored in the off season.
In summation, they are all poorly built, some worse than others, some better but overall, overpriced and under built. Amish craftsmanship is a joke, a joke on the consumer perpetrated by good salesmen and glitzy advertising.
Get past the fancy interiors and into the meat of any TC, you'll soon discover that hidden aspect.