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itguy08 wrote:

transferred wrote:

Of course they would make a difference, the crushing issue was in front of the cab so being an EC vs CC makes no difference. Side impact is a different matter.

And how will some steel placed sideways help the cab not crush? Looking at the pictures it seems that while it would deflect the glancing blows the energy goes to the same place - the frame.

Posting a video of a ALL NEW MODEL 2007 CC vs the 2006 INTRODUCED IN THE 90S shows only your bias and nothing else. Laughable, sure hope for your clients sake you aren't a lawyer.

You didn't even click the link as it's a link to pictures, not a video. And I'm not up on Chevy's so no idea they were new in 2007. Perusing the IIHS site they have not tested 2 of the same generation GM's with different cabs so it's hard to get a direct comparison.

Clearly buyers don't expect vital crash reinforcements to be missing from from that area. The proof is Ford are rushing out changes for MY16 as they've been caught. It's a disgrace and I'd say the same if it was GM or Dodge.

Again we don't know if they would do anything at all given the less structure of the superb type configurations. Loosing a B pillar alone means that configuration is going to be less rigid than if you had the "traditional" A-B-C pillar configuration.

It would be interesting to install those pieces and have another crash test to see if they actually do anything or if it really makes no difference.

Either way the vehicle is "safe" as designed. It meets all applicable federal crashworthiness standards.

Again, totally missing the point of the investigation. Despite Ford's PR quotes even they know it's a "gotcha" moment and so changes are being implemented to the EC and RC. I'd place a wager with you that the EC will do far better on the retest but, even if you took the bet after the dishonest links you posted I'd be unsure of ever getting paid out. I mean surely you can't truly believe it won't retest better.

As an FYI, only Ford make an extended cab lacking a B-pillar. For the last 4 years or so, GM and Ram "ECs" have B-pillars.

I'll finish by saying that for the last time this isn't about brands, but about missing front end safety reinforcements on Ford's RC and EC. Whether they still are ranked "acceptable" for crash testing is not the point, the point is that serious injury is more likely in some models than others and it's in an area (in front of the cab as opposed to the sides) that there should be no discrepancy.

If you can't see - or admit - this, well continue on your path of ignorance as I'll waste no more time explaining it.