CAFE stds on the chopping block

rjxj wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
All of these sites are far left biased and are hardly reliable. I could find some articles on Breitbart that argue the exact opposite. And you pro-green types would reject those.

Who is arguing... and are there really people that are anti green. ;)

But seriously, any EV owners I know didn't buy there cars because they are "pro green". They bought them because they like the cars. Really, they are a pretty nice drive. We are just regular people. When it was time to replace our older cars we analysed our driving and figured out that the EV's would fit the bill. Fun to drive, low maintenance, very low operating costs, fast and nimble, no hanging around gas stations and super quiet. Also no oil spots on the garage floor (our cars were starting to drip from time to time). Lots of neat features like programable pre-warm and no engine running to do it. EV's are not for everyone and for sure they don't replace a pickup...yet. But I don't think it is necessary to categorize a person in some derogatory manner because they like a certain type of vehicle. I loved my truck when I needed one. Now I don't but I still talk to truck people. :W

Just sayin.

It is a very interesting video. I dont know if the transportation side will change that quickly but I can see big changes with solar power and homes. The solar panel prices do keep dropping and battery technology is growing more quickly. I believe that the big change that has to come in electric vehicles will be at the wheel drive motors. I dont know what the current designs are but assume that they still utilize some sort of differential and gearbox. I have an 48/60 volt 5 hp electric outboard motor that is a brushless pancake design. This motor is about 10 in diameter and 5 inches thick. The big advancement will come when this type of motor eliminates most drive train losses and puts the motor shaft at the wheel hub or the wheel becomes the motor. Traction control, regenerative braking, differential control will all be at the wheel and computer controlled. There is no reason to accept gear/bearing/oil friction losses. So what companies are you invested in? :) Thanks for posting the video.

Interesting info on the motors. I am not up on how they do it but I believe Tesla and Nissan do it slightly different. I believe Mercedes does it like TESLA...however that is. Sorry not much help here.

No stock in any company but am a bit of an enthusiast. Really they are just so much nicer to drive than a gas or diesel burner that I just get a little carried away sometimes. Anyway, looking out the window, its cold, going to use my iphone to turn on the heat in my leaf before I leave. Think I'll turn on the heated steering wheel too. :)

Thanks for the interesting reply.

John