CAFE stds on the chopping block

Hannibal wrote:
I remember the smog in Tampa Fl back in the 60's. I wouldn't want to go back to that.

I don't think anyone would. Reducing future, more strict requirements is very different than "going back".

NJRVer wrote:
40 years ago the auto companies complained they couldn't meet standards.
Then 30 years ago they complained they couldn't meet standards.
Then 20 years ago they complained they couldn't meet standards.


Guess what? They met them and they are still here.

Yes but do you think that auto manufacturers can continue to sell Pickups, especially HD Pickups and other large SUV type vehicles and still achieve a 54 miles per gallon fleet average.

It's not physically possible. They'd have to drop large vehicles from their product list. And how many small vehicles today come remotely close to 54 mpg? I think the diesel Rabbit was up there but did VW do it honestly?

Like all Government agencies the EPA issues new regulations to justify they're existence, with out regard to common sense or need for more regs.

I remember the smog in Tampa Fl back in the 60's. I wouldn't want to go back to that.

40 years ago the auto companies complained they couldn't meet standards.
Then 30 years ago they complained they couldn't meet standards.
Then 20 years ago they complained they couldn't meet standards.


Guess what? They met them and they are still here.

What do CAFE stds have to do with Smog anyway. That is dealt with by catalytic converters and by DEF systems on diesels. And in California by banning backyard barbeques....Heh. Air quality has been fixed in most of the country, the problem is that enviros refuse to admit that is the case since hysteria = money to them.

fj12ryder wrote:
It's about time, just think how much better the smog would be in LA without all these intrusive regulations. Heck, we could probably be better than Mexico City or Beijing. How can you trust air you can't even see?

Actually, we can blame some Asian countries for a portion of the increased smog levels.

fj12ryder wrote:
It's about time, just think how much better the smog would be in LA without all these intrusive regulations. Heck, we could probably be better than Mexico City or Beijing. How can you trust air you can't even see?

Nice:B

It's about time, just think how much better the smog would be in LA without all these intrusive regulations. Heck, we could probably be better than Mexico City or Beijing. How can you trust air you can't even see?

Careful, dont let this get political or mods will close it in a new york minute!