California Fire

Golden_HVAC, I bet you feel "really ******" for making those comments now. Next time do some research.

jefe 4x4 wrote:
When I see my own model Lance and my own model white Dodge pickup burning to the ground, I get the shivers.
regards, as always, jefe

Yep, same as mine also. Makes you worry a bit.

A tragic loss in many ways. :(

Buzz: Looks just like you. I can see the resemblance :)

When I see my own model Lance and my own model white Dodge pickup burning to the ground, I get the shivers.
regards, as always, jefe

I lived in southern California for a number of years and watched fire after fire sweep down the hills and ravines. Though I think that the words used to describe the photo were poorly chosen, I do think there is an immense sense of frustration as people have managed to put themselves and their property in danger by building in areas that are inherently dangerous. To the rescue would come the firemen and kids from the prison work camps whom I accompanied on a number of occasions. Inevitably, over time, there would be tragedies as a fire roared up a canyon and engulfed the firefighters. So perhaps the poster was reflecting the fatigue many of us had in SoCAl with the mudslides, fires and traffic smashups. I felt that the place was out of control, unfortunately. Its beauty and wonderful people notwithstanding.

Fire can move IMPOSSIBLY fast.

We lived in the foothills of Southern California for many years and have seen fire burn to within accross the street. Fire that started many miles away the previous day!

The Fireman:
Was the fireman told that someone working on that camper? Napping inside?
Did the storage manager report "no propane tanks" allowed in storage?
. . .too many unknowns to even form a thoughtful opinion.

just an FYI I do have some experience on the line, that is me on the left

Just into the month of May and we have late summer type fires burning up and down the state. Yesterday the state snow survey announced we got 17 percent snow fall of a normal year. Shaping up to be a truly summer from hell.

And Wayne, I took it as close to a troll as it could get. Poor choice of words indeed.

Golden_HVAC wrote:
That fireman is really stupid to stand that close to a fifth wheel, when there might be propane tanks inside it!

Yes it is a sad day when someone can not know the smoke is in the air, and get in the truck and move it a day ahead of the fire showing up.

You have to be really stupid to wait and think "I know it will not come my way" when the fire is only a mile from me, I would be gone. I would not wait for a Sherriff to stop by and say you have to evacuate now. And when it is only 5 miles away, I would be starting up the RV and moving it. I know that ash and fire can fly more than a block in a minute. With 35 MPH winds, can you expect the fire to move slower?

WHy would a fireman risk his life to put out a fire on a vehicle that is already half burned? It would be much more productive to be at a house that is not yet on fire, and protect it instead. Good thing the fireman did not die from a exploding propane tank. He needs to go back to school!

Fred.

At best the type in red is a very poor choice of words. Especially That fireman is really stupid. My first thought was to delete the post as a Troll or for Flaming. After reading follow up post, I have decided to leave it, at least for now. Personally, I think one photo might raise questions, but care should be made in judging peoples actions.

Please choose your words more carefully.

Wayne
Moderator

Golden HVAC said
"Sorry,

But I spent to much time working for a city, and in risk assesment, though not working for the Fire Department. We did have to review each "Accident" and see if there was a way to prevent it from happening twice to a second person. "

I spent 24 years as a New York City fireman. The biggest and one of if not the busiest dept in the country. I take offense to you calling the fireman pictured "stupid" although this seems to be a habit with you , the camper owner is also labled by you as "stupid". So you spent "much time " working for "a" city in risk assesment. In other words a Suit. Paper pushing doesnt give you the experiance , or smarts to make the assesment you did based on a picture, nor do you show the respect needed to work productivly with men in the field to actually make a positve differance. You show all the earmarks of just another Bean Counter. You must have been tops in your field based on your "stupid" snap judgements based on a misenterpreted photo.