California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars by 2035
Like the title says "California to ban the sales of new gasoline cars by 2035". I can see it now all those used cars being hauled to Mexico will now be hauled to California. Link
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For shelby and Thermoguy
Quick example, using F150 lightning (115kwh usable) and an avg small EV (about 60k usable)
We will call the avg 80kwh.
V2G, sell back 50% of battery capacity, 40kwh each day (no mention of how you get it full, will jsut assume its magically full when you pullin after work at home and plugger in to sell back some electrons during peak demand)
Gotta leave a "half tank" for the next day to get to work and back home in case your buddy beats you to the free mooch dock charging station at work...
Use LA county, avg 179^6 kWh used daily. So take a LOW avg during peak summer times of 200^6 kWh. (In reality it's higher during peak demand season / hot weather, but I don't want you to think I'm cooking the numbres)
Currently 35,000 EVs in LA county (approx).
To just supplement 1% of the peak daily demand all 35,000 people have to participate (or lets say theres actually double that many EVs and half the people do it, every day there is a demand).
So 1 % of the consumption (when the peak usage rises 20% plus over average(at least) or 5% of the increased demand can be supplied.
So this is 1 out of 20, 5% solutions needed, IF at least half of the EV owners do this (becasue it's somehow financially attractive, although the mooch docking power to sell back and the cost of wearing out your vehicle while going nowhere and getting $.10/kwh (they ain't going to buy it for more than they're chargin you) x 40 kwh = $4/day "profit" for an EV owner that spent an avg of (in my example) only say $60k for a rolling Duracell.
$120/month for a total of 3? months per year (because this makes even less sense when 1 Honda 2000 can run the AC, no need to buy the second one (since you RV types understand generators...))
So each EV owner gets an avg max of $360 for power that "someone" paid $576 for (@ avg $.16 elect rate in LA county). And it was likely you who charged at home or paid even more at the cool Tesla "gas pumps" because your buddy mooch docked the last extension cord at the office.
And the power company solves 5% of it's problem (or say even 20% when the number of cars increases by 400%) while making money off of the backs of EV owners or their employers, if the EV owners get up extra early and beat their buddy to the mooch dock at work.
Even the people who can't do math well will figure out they're losing money by the time that there are 150,000 EVs in LA county!
Show me where this actually adds up for the consumer?
Quick example, using F150 lightning (115kwh usable) and an avg small EV (about 60k usable)
We will call the avg 80kwh.
V2G, sell back 50% of battery capacity, 40kwh each day (no mention of how you get it full, will jsut assume its magically full when you pullin after work at home and plugger in to sell back some electrons during peak demand)
Gotta leave a "half tank" for the next day to get to work and back home in case your buddy beats you to the free mooch dock charging station at work...
Use LA county, avg 179^6 kWh used daily. So take a LOW avg during peak summer times of 200^6 kWh. (In reality it's higher during peak demand season / hot weather, but I don't want you to think I'm cooking the numbres)
Currently 35,000 EVs in LA county (approx).
To just supplement 1% of the peak daily demand all 35,000 people have to participate (or lets say theres actually double that many EVs and half the people do it, every day there is a demand).
So 1 % of the consumption (when the peak usage rises 20% plus over average(at least) or 5% of the increased demand can be supplied.
So this is 1 out of 20, 5% solutions needed, IF at least half of the EV owners do this (becasue it's somehow financially attractive, although the mooch docking power to sell back and the cost of wearing out your vehicle while going nowhere and getting $.10/kwh (they ain't going to buy it for more than they're chargin you) x 40 kwh = $4/day "profit" for an EV owner that spent an avg of (in my example) only say $60k for a rolling Duracell.
$120/month for a total of 3? months per year (because this makes even less sense when 1 Honda 2000 can run the AC, no need to buy the second one (since you RV types understand generators...))
So each EV owner gets an avg max of $360 for power that "someone" paid $576 for (@ avg $.16 elect rate in LA county). And it was likely you who charged at home or paid even more at the cool Tesla "gas pumps" because your buddy mooch docked the last extension cord at the office.
And the power company solves 5% of it's problem (or say even 20% when the number of cars increases by 400%) while making money off of the backs of EV owners or their employers, if the EV owners get up extra early and beat their buddy to the mooch dock at work.
Even the people who can't do math well will figure out they're losing money by the time that there are 150,000 EVs in LA county!
Show me where this actually adds up for the consumer?
