California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars by 2035

JRscooby wrote:

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
Scoobydoo I like your excuse for letting the other big polluting countries have free ride on continued global air pollution. I do not share your guilt complex of blaming America first for everything. And except for this forum I think most Americans would agree with me. Compared to the jet set crowd and some RVers my carbon footprint is very small indeed. I now fish and camp without the small TT. No hypocrite here bubba joe just the facts. Cheers

Do I blame all America? Over half century ago science started talking about the dangers of climate change. Not long after, a President started advocating reduced energy use, andput solar panels on the roof of white house to show/study the possibility of renewable energy generation. Can we even guess how much less carbon would be in air now if we had built on that for all the years? But instead the next guy mocked the idea of a sweater in the house, had panels removed. Somehow the people that want to profit off oil and gas made climate a political issue. Oil companies have for decades got reports of harm from scientists, buried those reports, and hired politicians to protect their profit.
Many times on this site we read the evil in other developed counties for restricting ICE in their cities. Look at rivers/lakes in SW US. Do you see a problem? Some of the veggie growing land in Cali are not expected to produce this year. With the restrictions in production of wheat in Ukraine Kansas farmer should be expecting great things right? Many farmers are not getting rain, production reduced. Now look around the world. Rivers at low levels not seen in 500 years. We all have waited to long, but much of that wait is because of pushback from 1 major party in US. Even now, we hear "Why should we act? Force others to act first!" US claims to be world leader. I'm sure many people in other developed countries, forced to reduce from a lower average level "Why should we act? US is not acting, their bad air will come here!"

LOL, if you're going to pretend to consider all the factors, you forgot the most important one.
SoCal's natural climate and naturally occurring water never would have supported squat for agriculture or population.
MAN MADE accommodations provided for the growth of agriculture and population.
Now with 24 million people documented plus the millions of undocumented, a natural occurrence (drought) suddenly (like last 20-40 years) becomes an issue.
PS solar power doesn't grow plants, but the environmentalists can't decide which horse to ride and which one to beat on a day to day basis.
Typical envrio carp. Wind power bad, ruins the view and kills eagles or whatever (I agree windfarms are ugly compared to nature). But 1000s of square miles of solar would be more attractive?

Sure, SoCal is the right environment for some produce, but there's enough land for produce where one is NOT draining a river that now doesn't have enough water to support the actual usage.

Is there a huge city in the middle of Death Valley? Nope, because noone wants to live there and it would be far to costly to provide the infrastructure to make in hospitable.
Only because SoCal gets all it's water from the east, does it even remotely exist to the extent it does these days.
Can't cry in your beer about not having the "resources" that never would or should have been there in the first place.
It's like an overgrown example of people who build on a hillside and lose their home to a mudslide. That's THEIR fault. Plenty of places to live that won't wash away.
Or those that buy a home next to a freeway and complain about the noise...

It's all about the contributors and solution providers fixing the issues of the whiners and dreamers and ignorant....

The only emotion involved is from those who think their opinions matter when they have no skills to solve the problem and stand by their "convictions" all while being dependent on and expecting someone else to wipe their @ss!