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Dennis58
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Nov 23, 2018

Can you have your cake and eat it too?

Hi everyone

New forum member here with a odd ball can you have your cake and eat it too question? I'm about 3 years out from retirement and in the planning stages of putting together a rig that can meet all my needs.

Some background on me I have owned a couple Class A RV's over the years for both full time and part time use as well as tent camping in my younger years. My next camping adventures will combine ATV's on a occasional basis and several trips to the South/Mid West.

I'm drawn to TC's for their simplicity and compactness but the truck payload weight limits gets eaten up quickly going up in size than adding cargo. I'm not looking to drag 30' plus foot of equipment behind my truck so trailers, 5'ers and Toy Haulers are a non starter with me. Everything seems to start in the 27' range for entry level RV's that seem to me anyway to be cheaply built.

So I said if you can't find it just build it. How about a custom built 22' (floor length) trailer with a 5th wheel hookup. I can place a 10-11' TC on the front and have 11' left on the back for a ATV or Side by Side or Golf Cart. I know the Rock Crawler guys do this with 40' equipment trailers so it should be doable.

I'm not talking something thrown together but a well thought out project that is custom built around a TC I choose. The smaller footprint trailer still gives me access to a lot of campgrounds and I have more flexibility for dry camping.

My tow vehicle is a 2019 Silverado Dully Duramax.

What are your thought on that setup?

Thanks
Dennis
  • Price it out - a new Tcer is usually the highest cost camper out there. You may be able to get a custom trailer build with the deck behind complete for less than the Tcamper.

    The back door on the camper issue is one I never thought of if you have a load on. If you do go for a truck camper maybe look for a side door unit and/or one made for a flat bed so the wing space is already closed in.
  • Thanks for the reply's back, haven't done any of the weight math yet other than just assuming it will work out given that other people have done this before.

    OP tell me more about the TC made for a flatbed vice truck body, not sure I have came across that in my searching.

    My thoughts were to buy used TC + custom trailer + new ATV.
  • I've seen pictures of rigs like that, so I know it can be done. I do have a question about the weight math, though.

    5th wheels are supposed to put 25% of their weight in the truck (pin weight) and carry 75% on the trailer axles. You didn't say which tc you might be interested in, or how much it might weigh, but if it's parked all the way forward on the trailer, I wonder if far more than 25% of the weight might be going into the truck. Particularly if you chose to take it out WITHOUT the toys on the back of the trailer sometimes?

    Anyway, if you're going to buy a new tc, consider buying one designed for a flatbed instead of a normal truck body. Probably be more stable (wider base) on a trailer and they always have more internal space.
  • I have a jeepin' buddy over near Scottsboro with a Bigfoot TC on a gooseneck that he can also haul a Suzuki 4x4 on.

    On thing to remember is that once you load the vehicle on the trailer behind the TC, there may not be room to open the TC door without rolling the vehicle back.

    We were up at Windrock a couple of weeks ago and saw 3 or 4 gooseneck trailer with TCs set up to haul various off road rigs.

    Bankston had a used 9' 10" Lance last week; it would be perfect for that.

    https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/30-tow-rigs-trailers/
  • Sounds like you have a solution that fits your needs. I have seen various set-ups like you describe. It is a good way to get a large TC and some other toys without the need for a dually. If you go this route I would like to see your build if you document it.
  • There was a thread about this not too long ago, complete with pics. Seems it was someone "up north" as there was an issue about getting the TC secured before winter.
    It would be a way for quick getaways. Just hook up to the truck and go.
    I think it would be easy to do on a readily available gooseneck rather than a custom 5th wheel.