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- DakotaDadExplorer
itguy08 wrote:
Then why target Chrysler? Why not go after the biggest target, OnStar? OnStar has been doing this for quite a long time and offers many of the same features as Uconnect, all through the cellular vote and data networks. OnStar can remotely unlock doors, start the car, etc...
It could just be that Chrysler's system (like their vehicles) was poorly engineered.
Why? Because, as usual, you're really only looking to bash one brand, not really investigate the issue. Even a simple search would have found the following:
GM working to close OnStar security hole dug up by DARPA
"General Motors is developing a fix for its OnStar telematics system after researchers found a way to hack into one of its cars and take over several functions, including the brakes."
"Last week, BMW revealed that it had fixed a flaw in its ConnectedDrive telematics system that was discovered by a German automobile club and could allow someone using a fake cellular tower to connected to an individual car and open its windows or unlock its doors. More than 2.2 million cars were susceptible to such a breach."
Hackers find weaknesses in car computer systems
Savage wouldn't identify which manufacturer made the car they hacked into. But two people with knowledge of the work said the car was from General Motors and the researchers compromised the OnStar safety system, best known for using cellular technology to check on customers and call for help in a crash. The people didn't want to be identified because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.
GM wouldn't comment on the research, but the company issued a statement saying it takes security seriously and is putting strategies in place to reduce risk.
One of the people said GM engineers initially dismissed the researchers' work, but after reading the report, quickly moved to close holes that allowed access to the car's computers.
Are GM and BMW also poorly engineered?
There will be more reports of these types of events. Security is something that's complex, changes rapidly, and takes only one tiny mistake to make the whole effort worthless. Microsoft has a hard time keeping a constantly patched OS secure, and it's their business. Car companies have some painful lessons to learn in the process of accomplishing the same thing. - itguy08Explorer
bwanshoom wrote:
Don't kid yourself that other car manufacturers are handling security any better.
Then why target Chrysler? Why not go after the biggest target, OnStar? OnStar has been doing this for quite a long time and offers many of the same features as Uconnect, all through the cellular vote and data networks. OnStar can remotely unlock doors, start the car, etc...
It could just be that Chrysler's system (like their vehicles) was poorly engineered. - bwanshoomExplorer
itguy08 wrote:
Don't kid yourself that other car manufacturers are handling security any better.
Looks like Chrysler is recalling them now:
FCA 1.4M Recall
That's what you get for pairing the lowest quality vehicles (FCA) with the lowest quality cell phone provider (Sprint). - itguy08ExplorerLooks like Chrysler is recalling them now:
FCA 1.4M Recall
That's what you get for pairing the lowest quality vehicles (FCA) with the lowest quality cell phone provider (Sprint). - larry_barnhartExplorerJust saw on tv that the hackers were trying to see if they could do the hack not hurt anybody. Showing it could be done for the auto companies.
chevman - BenKExplorerJust the first of an upcoming explosion of these and the 'kids'
will continue to play games with these...
OBTW...many of the interns we hired were working on black badge
programs mentioned in the first youtube...
Sample #1 Digital Carjackers Show Off New Attacks
Hacker autohackers autohack autonomous
Sample #2 Digital Carjackers Show Off New Attacks
Firewall the auto WiFi....well, if you have a cell phone with you
and turned on the Blue Tooth to monitor the engine/tranny/etc...well
you may have just compromised your fire walled auto WiFi...or just
plug it into the diagnostic port to read codes...
Or...you replace something and got the parts from any brand automotive
supply store...if it has any potential connection to the various
computers or the vehicle network...it can have something embedded
in it's PROM that will allow anyone who has the code...to take
over your vehicle...
PS...buyers have pretty much asked for all of these bells and
whistles...plus to have them 'Highly Integrated'...be careful of
what you ask for... - fj12ryderExplorer IIIEasy there Henny Penny. :)
- buta4ExplorerWhat with the present computer systems and associated softwares installed in newer trucks and cars, and the soon to be popular (probably) self-driving vehicles, just wait and see what terrorists do with it. And they will, eventually.
Picture massive all-of-a-sudden accidents etc.
Scary to even think about.
:( - BenKExplorerAll it will take is for someone to plug one of these or like one
of these into their vehicle...or own one with OEM DVD players
running WiFi...
Amazon...Pupug WiFi 3G Android 4.2 Car DVD Player For Ford Mondeo Focus Stereo Radio WiFi 3G GPS (7 Inch, Black, Silver)
DVDWiFi wifi
Or this marketing ad over in China for a Ford....
Ford car DVD GPS mutimedia system, OEM Factory Headunit for Ford C-max, Focus, S-max, Mondeo cars, All-In-One Indash Sat-Nav radio Specially made for Ford, DVB-T TV tuner optional, ipod ready, HD Digital Touchscreen of 800 * 480 Resolutions, Original steering wheel match, Bluetooth handsfree and USB Port / SD Slot/ Aux In! Some dvds come with TPMS, Notebook, PIP function, Virtual CDC Ipod ready!
You are now visting the most professianl and famous Car dvd gps player stock market in China!
How many marketing ads have come out in North A with kids kept
'busy' back there viewing DVD's that are not wired, but WiFi fed?
Or that they are playing games with each other and buddies over
the Internet via vehicle WiFi...
You can firewall all you want and just one 'feature' can then
become the back door...
As posted here a loooong time ago when many were touting the GREAT
'Highly Integrated' stuff on our vehicles...that they will now
have to have anti-virus/firewalls/etc just like their home PC's...
I'm going to buy some anti-virus company stock...issue is which
one will come out with a 'vehicle' based product "FIRST".... - ib516Explorer IIThe correct title of this thread should be "American Chrysler vehicles can be hacked".
The Canadian ones cannot because the 3G (cellular) connectivity is unavailable in Canada eh.
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