COG educational thread

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What is it with some members who have nothing to add to the topic, yet they have to bring their venom?

Yep, this thread is for heavy haulers that need F550s and above. Yeah, that's what COG is about. Seriously? :D

I was just awaiting the carnage so I get a lucky rabbit’s foot out of what remains.

Don't let this go 11 pages. B-man, it's a rabbit hole slick with "ok, you hang up first" bait.

And again, your assumption about lack of CDL is wrong.
We are not talking about buying F450 for camper alone.
We are talking about camper and heavy trailer.
Without WD bars, that situation will happen and question is how much the bars will help.
My new F350 has 22,000 lb tow rating.
But it is not useable at all once I drop long camper on it.
All becouse of COG behind the axle.

Nope, I’m not assuming anything. I work with trucks and equipment every day, mostly big stuff (crane trucks) but little ones like 550s and such too.
That setup had to be awful close to 26,000. What the local D.O.T. is cracking down on is people with 450s and 550s pulling trailers with equipment like you described.
When the trailer weighs 16k or so, like I know yours did because I weigh this kind of stuff all the time, it’s real easy to go over 26,000 total and the vast majority of people driving these don’t have CDLs.
There’s also only so much weight you can put on your rear tires regardless of their stated capacity.
D.O.T. doesn’t care. They go by size only.
I’ve got a Peterbilt 385 with tires rated for 10,000 pounds each up front, that are only 325s, and a Peterbilt 367 that has larger 385s up front that are actually rated for LESS than the super heavy duty ones on the 385. D.O.T doesn’t care. They’ll only allow the front to be 14,400 on the smaller ones, they allow a few thousand more on the lower-rated but fatter tires on the 367.
I’ll bet you were pushing it with the rear end weight on your 450 with that nose heavy trailer on.

And still, none of that means a 450 Ford with a diesel won’t easily and comfortably carry about any truck camper made with plenty of front axle weight, even with standard pickup truck axle setback.

You assume wrong facts to support your theory.
Everything was perfectly legal. Just not engineered too well.
Would F450 had axle moved back like F550 or mentioned camper special, the situation would never exist.

Yeah, it’s that easy. You weren’t hauling a camper, you were hauling way too much weight with the wrong kind of trailer.
That’s got almost nothing to do with carrying a camper less than half that weight up on the truck deck.
Any trailer capable of hauling a 12,000 lift weighs well over 3000 pounds by itself.
You had a 15,000, probably 16,000 pound trailer, with way too much tongue weight.
D.O.T. around here has been really cracking down on that stuff, lately hardly a day goes by I don’t see a landscaper or whoever in a 450 or 550 pulling a piece of equipment on a trailer on the side of the road with a D.O.T. officer “educating” the driver about what you can and can’t do.