Common issues with Dodge 6.7L or Ford 6.7
Hoping to solicit some of the collective advice from the gurus on the forum about a new truck purchase. I've been lucky to own a few great trucks: 2001 7.3 powerstroke, a 2007 LBZ duramax, and just ...
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By definition, the suggestion that Problem X is no longer an issue with the current models is a potential fallacy, because not enough time has transpired to prove the reliability of the current or very recent year, compared to the years prior where Problem X was reported.
Take the commonly reported radiator failures on the Ford Super Duties as an example. Leaks at the tank to core junction started to be commonly reported around 2010, for 2008 model years. Usually at around 50K miles. When the 2011 redesign was introduced in 2010, the first new owners of the 2011 opined that the radiator was no longer an issue... as they assumed it would be limited to only the 6.4L diesels, and they were driving the new 6.7L.
Well, come 2013, here come the reports of 2011 up radiator failures, and those reports are still pouring in on the relevant Ford truck specific forums I read (because I own a Ford, not a Ram, so let's get that straight). Then, with the 2015 refresh on the engine, it was assumed once again that the radiator issues were a thing of the past. But now, in mid 2016, I've read several reports of 2015 truck owners with leaking radiators. Again, at around 50,000 miles.
So before taking for granted that a commonly reported problem is resolved just because it doesn't reveal itself in a brand new truck, I would like to see 4 or 5 years of problem free service, or 100,000 miles, before believing the problem has actually been licked. That hasn't happened yet with the Ford radiator, nor high pressure fuel pump and fuel conditioning module.
Nor does it matter, for owners who like to trade up every 4 or 5 years, and never drive their trucks longer than warranty coverage. A short term owner's blissful problem free experience is less informative to me, because I keep vehicles in service for 20 years. As such, the basic question that the OP asks that is the premise of this thread is an excellent one... not which brand is better, but what are the specific well known problems that each brand has.
The most informative answers may not be available until the future. But to any extent that past performance presents a strong indicator of future problems, I would lean toward lending more weight to the sullied record of models with a couple of years on them, then the clean records of models that are nearly new.
Take the commonly reported radiator failures on the Ford Super Duties as an example. Leaks at the tank to core junction started to be commonly reported around 2010, for 2008 model years. Usually at around 50K miles. When the 2011 redesign was introduced in 2010, the first new owners of the 2011 opined that the radiator was no longer an issue... as they assumed it would be limited to only the 6.4L diesels, and they were driving the new 6.7L.
Well, come 2013, here come the reports of 2011 up radiator failures, and those reports are still pouring in on the relevant Ford truck specific forums I read (because I own a Ford, not a Ram, so let's get that straight). Then, with the 2015 refresh on the engine, it was assumed once again that the radiator issues were a thing of the past. But now, in mid 2016, I've read several reports of 2015 truck owners with leaking radiators. Again, at around 50,000 miles.
So before taking for granted that a commonly reported problem is resolved just because it doesn't reveal itself in a brand new truck, I would like to see 4 or 5 years of problem free service, or 100,000 miles, before believing the problem has actually been licked. That hasn't happened yet with the Ford radiator, nor high pressure fuel pump and fuel conditioning module.
Nor does it matter, for owners who like to trade up every 4 or 5 years, and never drive their trucks longer than warranty coverage. A short term owner's blissful problem free experience is less informative to me, because I keep vehicles in service for 20 years. As such, the basic question that the OP asks that is the premise of this thread is an excellent one... not which brand is better, but what are the specific well known problems that each brand has.
The most informative answers may not be available until the future. But to any extent that past performance presents a strong indicator of future problems, I would lean toward lending more weight to the sullied record of models with a couple of years on them, then the clean records of models that are nearly new.
