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DwnSth
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Mar 03, 2017

Considering new truck

Thinking of looking into a 350/3500 in the next few months. While the 150 in sig tows current rig perfectly and we absolutely love the ride, we know the next camper will be a 5th wheel. I know there are endless discussion on Ford/GM/Ram but hopefully I can get real world experience on payloads and towing.
I want to know how I can get the highest payload from a SRW, would like to avoid the DRW if possible. The truck for us is not a daily driver and used only for hauling and towing. Current truck just capped over 38,000 miles/25,000 towing. I'm looking for a long life vehicle that can hopefully last many years and only slightly limit our selection in future RV's.
I've had very good luck with Ford, not so much with GM (never had a GM truck other than a Tahoe). Only had Jeeps from Chrysler and they've all lasted years with few problems.
  • Your payload on a SRW is based on the GVWR, minus the weight of the truck as it left the factory. To get the highest door post sticker payload, you would have to keep the fancy options to a minimum, as everything adds weight. I would suggest to get the highest rated tires/wheels available, as they are the true limit on the RAWR, which is a big concern with 5th wheel pin weight.

    Jerry
  • Ram crew cab 3500 will start you at ~4480lbs of payload in SRW.
    Chevy crew cab 3500 will start at ~3900lbs payload in SRW.
    Ford F-350 Crew Cab 350 will start at ~3930lbs payload in SRW.

    These numbers are all for crew cab, 4x4, diesel, as I figured that is the most common truck most people shop for. These numbers are all before all your fancy options get added.

    https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/towing_guide/pdf/2016_ram_3500_towing_charts.pdf

    http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-3500hd-heavy-duty-truck/specs/trims.html

    http://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2017/models/f350-xl/


    If I were in your shoes and wanted to stay SRW, I would probably lean heavily towards the Ram for the much higher payload rating in SRW configuration.
  • I would echo what Farmerjon said. We recently traded our '13 GMC 2500HD for a '12 F-350 DRW (actually had 3,000 less miles on it than our GMC). The reason we did this is because, with a SRW truck - whether 2500/250 or 3500/350, you run the risk of reaching the max load limit on the rear tires of the truck very quickly with a single rear wheel and a fifth wheel. Look at the GVWR (not the published dry weights or pin weights) of the wheels you are considering and take 23% of that GVWR for an estimated loaded pin weight. Our loaded "mid-profile" fifth wheel (13,990 GVWR) rolls across the scales with 3,100 lbs on the pin. We are MUCH more comfortable with the DRW truck. As for brand, see if you can find a truck with the Cummins turbo-diesel, the Allison 1000 transmission, a GM chassis and front end (steering), and the Ford interior and body. In other words, find a DRW 1-ton truck you like and get it.

    Rob
  • The highest payload will be a regular cab base model with gas engine. Bigger cabs, options, and Diesel engines eat up payload.
  • We tow with a 2016 RAM 2500 6.7 diesel. I have towed with Fords F250 Power Stroke and Toyota Tundras. My experience with the RAM so far is very good. The Cummings diesel is rock solid and pulls well. The 6.7 4WD is rated at 23000 lbs towing capacity. We have a tow behind 32 ft hitch to bumper and hardly ever know it is back there. We live in the central valley and cross the ridge route often. There are two steep grades and the truck handles both the up hill and down very well. The smart exhaust break is a feature that I really like in the mountains.
  • Since I am totally unbiased ,hah:B I would suggest you stay with Ford.
    I think any of the 350/3500 would be a good choice.
    But I would seriously think about a dually, they ate rated higher and are more stable.
    have fun in your search.