Lynnmor wrote:You've got a real uphill battle on your hands here.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"146","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-18T14:38:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-18T14:38:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":273},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1027201/message:1027222","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"173","rawBody":"
To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
Lynnmor wrote:You've got a real uphill battle on your hands here.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1027222_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:113996":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:113996","uid":113996,"login":"mpierce","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-12-30T06:38:33.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:113996"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1027221":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1027221","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1027221":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:113996"},"id":"message:1027221","revisionNum":1,"uid":1027221,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1027201"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1027201"},"subject":"Re: Cooling your brakes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1027221"},"body":"
To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
Lynnmor wrote:
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Lynnmor wrote:
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
davisenvy wrote:Lynnmor wrote:2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Brakes are a heat device. There is no way to use brakes and keep them cool. If you want to slow a vehicle with the brakes, then you will generate heat. The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
WRONG! Advice like this will end up really messing someone up. Whatever you do, DO NOT RIDE YOUR BRAKES. Stab the brakes as mentioned and go down the mountain same gear it took you to get up it, or even a gear lower if concerned. I can ride behind most out of towners and smell their brakes burning. The whole time their brake lights are brightly lit.
davisenvy wrote:Lynnmor wrote:2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Brakes are a heat device. There is no way to use brakes and keep them cool. If you want to slow a vehicle with the brakes, then you will generate heat. The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
WRONG! Advice like this will end up really messing someone up. Whatever you do, DO NOT RIDE YOUR BRAKES. Stab the brakes as mentioned and go down the mountain same gear it took you to get up it, or even a gear lower if concerned. I can ride behind most out of towners and smell their brakes burning. The whole time their brake lights are brightly lit.
Lynnmor wrote:2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Brakes are a heat device. There is no way to use brakes and keep them cool. If you want to slow a vehicle with the brakes, then you will generate heat. The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
Lynnmor wrote:2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Brakes are a heat device. There is no way to use brakes and keep them cool. If you want to slow a vehicle with the brakes, then you will generate heat. The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
carringb wrote:Lynnmor wrote:
The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
The heat generated will be the same, however the \"stab-and-coast\" method does 3 things:
1) Heat energy is shed at a greater rate with greater temperature differential, so getting your brakes really hot and then not using them, dissipates more heat over the same amount of time then gently riding the brakes
2) By not riding the brakes, you allow for time when the friction material is not in direct contact withe rotor/drum surface, allowing better cooling
3) The \"stab\" part of the \"stab-and-coast\" method ensures all brakes receive even pressure which distributes heat more evenly. Under light braking, brakes may not be braking evenly, which can cause individual corners to overheat sooner.
Not riding brakes is a pretty fundamental part of driving heavy commercial trucks. It's taught in every CDL driving school, and spelled out in most CDL manuals.
carringb wrote:Lynnmor wrote:
The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
The heat generated will be the same, however the \"stab-and-coast\" method does 3 things:
1) Heat energy is shed at a greater rate with greater temperature differential, so getting your brakes really hot and then not using them, dissipates more heat over the same amount of time then gently riding the brakes
2) By not riding the brakes, you allow for time when the friction material is not in direct contact withe rotor/drum surface, allowing better cooling
3) The \"stab\" part of the \"stab-and-coast\" method ensures all brakes receive even pressure which distributes heat more evenly. Under light braking, brakes may not be braking evenly, which can cause individual corners to overheat sooner.
Not riding brakes is a pretty fundamental part of driving heavy commercial trucks. It's taught in every CDL driving school, and spelled out in most CDL manuals.
Lynnmor wrote:
The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
Lynnmor wrote:
The quantity of heat will be the same regardless how you play with the pedal. To generate extreme heat for intermittent periods is a sure road to disaster.
2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
2oldman wrote:Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-18T11:08:24.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-18T11:08:24.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":207},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1027201/message:1027215","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"347","rawBody":"
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
Lynnmor wrote:No it isn't, and perhaps you are, but keeping your brakes cool is of utmost importance. Riding them is a sure road to disaster.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1027215_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:72858":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:72858","uid":72858,"login":"Tankcar","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-09-22T07:12:27.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:72858"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1027214":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1027214","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1027214":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:72858"},"id":"message:1027214","revisionNum":1,"uid":1027214,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1027201"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1027201"},"subject":"Re: Cooling your brakes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1027214"},"body":"Hello.
The idea of repeatedly hitting the brakes hard and then coast back up to speed is nonsense. What you are doing is causing the brakes to go thru exaggerated heat/cool cycles.
