As a person who hates the haggling nonsense i generally hate car buying and rv buying for that matter. Its all about lies starting with msrp stickers, then what a dealers bottom line "real" price is and playing games with rebates, extended warranties, paint protection etc etc.. To me nothing has changed in 40 years with cars sales. Problem is they all insist on putting you through this garbage before a real price is presented. I have walked away angry so often its crazy. The people i buy from are reasonable, polite and respectful of me personally and my money. Those are hard to find but it can be done.