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HuckleberryHunt's avatar
Jun 28, 2018

Decided to replace the trailer.

After 11 years of wonderful service, we decided to replace our 1999 Layton travel trailer.
Last weekend we went and picked up a 2019 Outdoors RV Creekside 21DBS. The kids are excited about the bunks and the DW is excited about not having to make and tear down beds every day. :)

I'm happy to have a new rig, but am now finding I need to learn all the particulars about this one. Would love to replace the stock WFCO converter/charger with a PD, but think that will wait for a while to see how the stock one does. Also got a new Equilizer 4-point WDH, which I think needs adjustment too.....I'm sure I'll have some questions to post sooner than later!

Here's to new adventures!

Happy Trails!
  • I'd recommend weighing that tongue before committing to the 1K/12K hitch. I have the Nash 29S and we don't get anywhere near 1,000 hitch weight. Now I don't travel with water in the fresh tank, so that could be a factor. We use the 1K/10K Equal-i-zer and it works great.
  • donn0128 wrote:
    Enjoy it.
    While Im not a fan of some of the items they choose to use, but it seems like there have not been many reported issues, so guess its a wait and see.


    Agree, due to the price point/build quality, it'd be nice if they utilized some of the "better" items most of us end up installing ourselves vs. the same stock base stuff everyone in the industry already uses, but I was impressed with the build quality, so hope that that will allow many years of enjoyment. I figure I'll do my own upgrades as time goes by anyway, so until then....!


    TurnThePage wrote:
    Dunno what your tow vehicle is, but as I've admired those ORV trailers, I've noticed their tongue weight can be out of this world. I'm eyeing one of their smaller units, a 20FQ Titanium (24' long), which appears to have a tongue weight above 1100 lbs ready to camp. The WFCO converter may be entry level, but it gets the job done, at least for the short term.

    On edit, I see that your tow vehicle is probably adequate. :B


    Thanks! I too did my research on that. We bought the 3/4 ton a couple years ago so that I didn't have to think about limitations for the trailers we were interested in. That was such an awesome upgrade when it came to towing the old trailer (~6K loaded).
    Your comment about the tongue weight is a good one. The listed dry tongue weight is 725#. The dealer recommended a 1,000/10,0000 Equilizer hitch. I told him I wanted a 1,200/12,000. He said that that might be too much hitch for the trailer. When I explained the reasonings behind it (loaded hitch weight, TV cargo weight, trailer GVWR, etc) he said that no one has every complained with the 1,000/10,000 hitch. I didn't discount that, but doubt most buyers spend the time researching the specs on their trailers either. In most instances (and for other brands/models) that hitch would be fine and maybe even "sufficient" for this one, but if I'm loaded for bear, I want to know my hitch isn't at or over the limit either. Seriously, with a 78 gallon fresh water capacity, that's over 600 lbs of cargo right there!
    Other forum members reported scale tongue weights on similar trailers to be between 900#-1100#, so am happy with my decision. Not to mention if you put in the specs on the Equalizer website they too recommend the 1,200/12,000. It amazed me that the whole crew at the dealership (salesmen, and techs) didn't agree with it. I'll admit that that did make me second guess my decision a bit, but not anymore.

    This weekend will be our maiden trip (no hookups), so I'm sure I'll have a list of things to address when it's over. I've already got a couple! i.e. stinky slinky storage (new Camco doesn't fit in bumper), battery securement (can't fit two grp27 on tongue (at least in the welded space), and more to come I'm sure. :) I've been too busy selling the old trailer (which went like hotcakes!) over the last couple days to spend time prepping the new one.

    Thanks for the replies All!
  • Dunno what your tow vehicle is, but as I've admired those ORV trailers, I've noticed their tongue weight can be out of this world. I'm eyeing one of their smaller units, a 20FQ Titanium (24' long), which appears to have a tongue weight above 1100 lbs ready to camp. The WFCO converter may be entry level, but it gets the job done, at least for the short term.

    On edit, I see that your tow vehicle is probably adequate. :B
  • Get out the hitch install instructions (download if you do not have them) and a measuring tape, and you should see in minutes if they set it up correctly.
  • The WFCO converter should work fine with the wet led acid battery that will come std with the TT. When you change out the battery for a AGM or other higher tech battery you'll want to up grade the converter to charge it properly
  • Nice, hope you have lots of wonderful outings in your new rig. The WFCO converter is not much different from previous versions but should work if you mostly camp with hookups.

    If you do more RVing without hookups and need fast charging when using generator the WFCO would perform miserably, either way a pd smart converter would keep your batteries much happier over the long haul.

    Since you have been RVing all these years I doubt learning all the particulars of this new rig will take much time. Sounds like your all set, the Equalizer WD/SC hitch should provide a comfortable towing experience.
  • Enjoy it.
    While Im not a fan of some of the items they choose to use, but it seems like there have not been many reported issues, so guess its a wait and see.