Diesel Colorado/Canyon

Will the General build enough of them to sell, nicely equipped, for under 50 grand, what about 40 grand?

If it is anything like the 2.8l in my Jeep, it will do great with smaller trailers. I would replace it with a Chevy/GMC for my Daily Driver if anything would happen to the Jeep.

Perfect rig for a lot of people. Looks like they might sell very well.

It looks like an Avalanche with that add-on behind the cab. This is not a good thing.

Practically speaking I'm sure this will be a good truck for a lot of people. This issue it may have is it seems to bump right into full-size truck territory, and most Americans are pretty comfortable with that larger size. For better or worse fuel is cheap right now the mileage isn't as big of a deal as it was a few years ago (or as it may be a few years from now).

I've got three kids so I actually need the extra cab space of a full-size truck, let alone the extra capability.

The Avalanche looking thing in the back is part of an optional (and very expensive) offroad package. Should this little pickup hit in the low to mid thirties MPG, they will sell regardless of fuel prices. The specs on this pickup are nearly identical to those of the 6.5 TD of years past. While it is not going to replace anyone's HD tow rig, it is not just helpless transportation, but should be capable to perform light duty towing. I think they will easily hit their 10% take rate they are shooting for. I am going to take one for a test drive when they come out. I like the idea of one.

I have been around diesel passenger and diesel trucks my entire life. This Colorado should be interesting. I bought 2 Liberty Crd as soon as they came out. Was soured after f37 detune which led reason to believe that the vm moturi 2.8 was awesome but slapped together with a gas parts bin.


The Nissan TD is ground up diesel and should be a winner.
The Colorado dmax needs more info before I can comment further.

With less than 200 HP on tap and 7K on the tail things are going to get ugly when they take this thing to Co and tow up Ike. Snails are going to be in the passing lane and going past this thing.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
With less than 200 HP on tap and 7K on the tail things are going to get ugly when they take this thing to Co and tow up Ike. Snails are going to be in the passing lane and going past this thing.

180 HP is fine for only 7,600 lbs towing, and it's a turbocharged motor to boot, so altitude will have little effect on the motor.. It's not like the EcoDiesel that's rated at 9,000 lbs. It will probably have similar performance to the Ecodiesel RAM at its GCVWR as GM does meet J2807 on their rigs. So you should be guaranteed a minimum speed of 45 mph at full GCVWR going up. The big advantage though is that it has an exhaust brake for going down the hill. Something I think even the Ecodiesel is lacking at this point in time, though Chevy activates it with Tow/Haul mode. I personally like having the EB separated as I can have the gentler shifting and exhaust braking when driving the passes empty.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
With less than 200 HP on tap and 7K on the tail things are going to get ugly when they take this thing to Co and tow up Ike. Snails are going to be in the passing lane and going past this thing.

I'm not a math major, but I would think that 190 hp and 360 ft/lbs or torque will move 7K up the hill just about as fast as 380/720 will move 14K up that hill. It won't set any speed records, but I imagine it will do just fine towing 7K.

jus2shy wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
With less than 200 HP on tap and 7K on the tail things are going to get ugly when they take this thing to Co and tow up Ike. Snails are going to be in the passing lane and going past this thing.

180 HP is fine for only 7,600 lbs towing, and it's a turbocharged motor to boot, so altitude will have little effect on the motor.. It's not like the EcoDiesel that's rated at 9,000 lbs. It will probably have similar performance to the Ecodiesel RAM at its GCVWR as GM does meet J2807 on their rigs. So you should be guaranteed a minimum speed of 45 mph at full GCVWR going up. The big advantage though is that it has an exhaust brake for going down the hill. Something I think even the Ecodiesel is lacking at this point in time, though Chevy activates it with Tow/Haul mode. I personally like having the EB separated as I can have the gentler shifting and exhaust braking when driving the passes empty.

I towed my 7000 LB TT over Ike with my 200 HP/ 425 ft/lbs of torque 6.5 turbo diesel (turned up fuel and boost, most likely around 225 HP) and it was pretty ugly as far as speed goes. I was below 30 MPH.

These guys were towing 7,200 LBS with a 240 HP TD. They got down to around 42 MPH. And that is not a TT but a flat bed with a Bronco on it. BIG difference!

The only advantage the mini max has over my 6.5 is 2 more gears so it will be a bit better at keeping the rev's close to peak HP. That's not much because my 6.5 was pretty much maxed out at keeping the HP at it's peak with 4 gears and a 4.10 rear.

Doing the math, with this thing being down over 50 HP this truck should be around 35 to 40 MPH on the IKE. We will see how close I am when the test comes out.