John & Angela wrote:Lessmore wrote:John & Angela wrote:jerem0621 wrote:John & Angela wrote:mkirsch wrote:NJRVer wrote:
LOL!
2&3:
ICE engine owners need to realize how dangerous they are. I'm afraid somebody is going to strip their car in their driveway to sell the parts and it might fall on them.
Or they are going to be working on the motor with it running and stick their hand in the fan.
LOL!
Laugh if you want. Until you've seen even a small lithium battery fire, you have no idea. VERY violent, energetic, impossible to quench.
Good morning.
Although lithium type battery fires are nasty things at least so far they haven’t proven to be any more problematic than liquid vehicle fires in the industry. Hopefully that will continue to be the case.
Also, I’m not sure I understood the being covered in Electrolyte comment. I assume you are talking about the 12 volt lead acid battery under the hood which normal ICE vehicles have as well. Maybe I misunderstood.
John.
Just a concern, some of the batteries I have seen on the inter webs from flooded Tesla’s are nasty. Once water penetrates the battery bank all bets are off, I certainly do not want that stuff on me. Also, to remove a battery from a Tesla you have to physically be under the vehicle. With a lift, not so much a concern, but with floor jacks and jack stands...again just a concern.
As the technology progresses we will make tools that the hot rod guys will have in their home workshops to make this simpler. I just haven’t started seeing li-on battery removal lift for sale like you see cherry pickers and engine stands yet.
Again, the electrolyte comment is just a concern I have.
Thanks!
Jeremiah
Well they are certainly all valid concerns Jeremiah and of course it makes sense to have the right equipment and knowledge before working on any potentially dangerous equipment.
I think I figured out your electrolyte concern. In an EV battery (or at least ours and Tesla’s) the battery is made up of hundreds or even thousands of small batteries that are strung together to make a big one. There is no liquid electrolyte or at least like you would find in a 12 volt lead acid battery so no spill worries.
Re their life. They are supposed to be built for 1000 to 1500 cycles. So a guy like me who plugs in a couple times a week would see probably 12 to 15 years out of a battery. Bigger batteries like the Tesla’s have may only get plugged in once every week or less so it depends on your needs of course. Battery warranties tend to be 8 years right now.
I don’t know about other car batteries but the cost for our Leaf battery installed is about 5500 dollars. We only bought this car to get us to retirement in a few years so we’ll never have the battery changed. It will make a great little commuter vehicle for someone else.
Hope that was helpful.
Cheers and stay safe on the road.
John.
John,
This thread is about small diesel engines, not EV. I don't want my thread taken over about debates re; EV vehicles.
Thank you,
Les
Good point Les. That last post should have been a PM. My apologies.
John
