Diesel Titan Info

ib516 wrote:

Majja13 wrote:

Donnoh wrote:
Nissan Titan Details

A few details about the new Titan. 13" rear differential and Aisin 6 speed transmission on the Cummins version. Not so sure of the payload as it just says more than 2000 pounds when properly equipped.

I like the look of it though I would tone the grill mesh down a bit. I am wanting to see the numbers like many have said. I am hoing this is that gap truck between a heavy half or a full blown 6.7 Diesel offering.

I also agree with what IDad said this would be and awsome engine in a Ram 2500. Even my next TT is only rated at 9200 lbs wet, but that would put me at the very top end of the halfs and the bottom end of the larger HD trucks.

Excited that it has finally released and am looking forward to the real world numbers.

With all due respect, that would be a TERRIBLE engine for a Ram 2500.

130 hp and 300+ lbs/ft of torque lower than the competition? They'd be the laughing stock of the 2500 series truck market. No one can afford to do that. Can you imagine the comparison tests?

Many on here care more about mpg than the average truck buyer. Most people care most about capability when it comes to HD trucks (2500 & 3500), not mpg. 1500 series truck buyers care about mpg, and not so much about capability. The automakers know the market.

I dont think to replace the 6.7 just have an alternative option.

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brulaz wrote:

otrfun wrote:

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For those that prefer a balanced combination of fuel economy AND towing/payload capability, we now have the Nissan Titan XD Cummins V8 diesel.

I would add the F150 HD Payload with the 3.5L EcoB to that.

Except that time and again tests and real world experience have shown that the EcoBoost has little to no MPG advantage over comparable V8 engines, towing or solo.

And the fuel economy of the Cummins 5.0 hasn't yet been released.

I am a fan of diesel power, but with the way fuel prices are right now, I am uncertain of the value of a 1500 equivalent diesel truck to the consumer. I understand the manufactures need to produce these for CAFE requirements (assuming the Cummins has good MPG numbers), but in my part of the country diesel is $1.00 more per gallon than regular unleaded. If it stays that way, there has to be a significant MPG advantage of a diesel to have equivalent or lower cost per mile for the consumer.

I like this engine, but with the way the fuel market is, this isn't the best time to be launching a diesel. Will be interesting to see what the EPA numbers are for it. I hope this truck is a success.

Here are a few screen shots from a video...







Pretty slick looking truck.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

brulaz wrote:

ib516 wrote:

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With all due respect, that would be a TERRIBLE engine for a Ram 2500.

130 hp and 300+ lbs/ft of torque lower than the competition? They'd be the laughing stock of the 2500 series truck market. No one can afford to do that. Can you imagine the comparison tests?

Many on here care more about mpg than the average truck buyer. Most people care most about capability when it comes to HD trucks (2500 & 3500), not mpg. 1500 series truck buyers care about mpg, and not so much about capability. The automakers know the market.

To be honest, I think the current Cummins in the RAM 2500 is a poor choice. It just eats up the payload. Great in the 3500 though.

And the same applies to all other 250/2500s. The current big diesels are just too heavy. They should restrict them to the 350/3500s.

The 5L Cummins should be light enough for the RAM 2500 to have a more reasonable payload.

The Ram 2500 diesel has about the same payload as the other two 2500 series diesels. The class max is 10k GVWR which is what the Ram has. GM and Ford aren't much better in their 2500/250 series diesels.

Here are the gasser numbers, but the diesel numbers will be less for all 3 makes; but similar to each other.

The "Ram has low payload" thinking is so last year :) -- unless you are talking 1500 series, then yes, in some configurations, they are low.

Here is something else on the titan...

Autoblog.com wrote:
Helping TITAN XD owners take advantage of its ample towing power are a range of available hitches – including an integrated gooseneck hitch engineered into the frame and easily accessible in the bed. Gooseneck hitches put the load in front of the rear axle, enhancing the ability to control the vehicle.

ib516 wrote:

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With all due respect, that would be a TERRIBLE engine for a Ram 2500.

130 hp and 300+ lbs/ft of torque lower than the competition? They'd be the laughing stock of the 2500 series truck market. No one can afford to do that. Can you imagine the comparison tests?

Many on here care more about mpg than the average truck buyer. Most people care most about capability when it comes to HD trucks (2500 & 3500), not mpg. 1500 series truck buyers care about mpg, and not so much about capability. The automakers know the market.

To be honest, I think the current Cummins in the RAM 2500 is a poor choice. It just eats up the payload. Great in the 3500 though.

And the same applies to all other 250/2500s. The current big diesels are just too heavy. They should restrict them to the 350/3500s.

The 5L Cummins should be light enough for the RAM 2500 to have a more reasonable payload.

Adding my 2 cents, for all it is worth. I think Nissan may have something here. I always wished a 2500 series truck, specigically the Ram with the coils, would get a smaller diesel, which is still pretty powerfull compared to my 91 dually. The style is ok, and is not a selling point to me. I am looking something that is smooth going down the road and has the power to tow a TT. I was thinking Ram 1500, but now leaning heavily here. I think this would be a better vehicle to sit next to my Jeep Diesel.

otrfun wrote:

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For those that prefer a balanced combination of fuel economy AND towing/payload capability, we now have the Nissan Titan XD Cummins V8 diesel.

I would add the F150 HD Payload with the 3.5L EcoB to that.