mountainkowboy wrote:
Red is a gasser, 460 and zf5 and with the TC on it at 5+ tons it has no problems and gets reasonable mpg and RARELY needs to go down below 4th gear. Do I wish it was a 7.3 with a turbo...you bet!! But I couldn't find one that I was willing to pay for at the time and this truck was a creampuff...

Well Red weighs 5+ tons with TC? Well here is our package, Chuck the Ram weighs almost 4 tons empty, our 5er weighs close to 6 tons so we are moving 10 tons! My Cummins with 100 less cubic inches of displacement moves this very well!!
