Dodge all in on electric too 500 mile range Ram

monkey44 wrote:

We have no issues with government spending for the benefit of our citizens and protecting our earth. Just disagreeing with the fact so many folks think it's free just because the Feds write the check.

It's not free, it comes from our tax money and federal fines. It's part of our federal budget, collected from working taxes and-or operating permit fees, or sometimes surplus sales that we originally bought. We pay, it's not free. The government does not earn money for us to pay its bills.

First, society is going to pay for the damage, past and future one way or another. Drop cleaner air and water out of the deal, only count dollars, and the insurance industry will tax the snot out of us.
Now if somebody wants to look at federal government like the family budget, what hurts more, car payment goes up $100 month, or you boss cuts your pay $100/mo? Somehow we as a society have decided that people that work for their money must be taxed at a higher rate than people who's money works for them. Somehow any time the government decides to spend extra on a car payment we hear "Workers will have to pay more!" But when government tells boss "Pay us less" there is no outcry.

valhalla360 wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
EV`s are not going to make it except as a niche market.

Actually, EVs can make up a significant portion of the market.

The bulk of vehicles are owned by multi car homes and the vast majority of daily trips are well under 100miles. If your home has 2 vehicles, one EV that is used as first choice unless it's a longer trip, works very well with overnight charging in the garage. Replacing 50-60miles of range in a compact car, is doable with even a 15amp household outlet. This leaves the ICE available for longer trips. These EVs could easily represent 30-50% of the passenger vehicle market. So the main hurdle is financial, not technical.

Where they are limited is users who regularly travel longer distances and/or under heavy load conditions. They will struggle to charge overnight at slower rates and be forced to use fast charging stations which are still not that fast. These frequent long distance drivers are also likely to be more sensitive to losing a half hour to an hour doing a fast charge.

With a secondary group of those without a place to plug in at home/work, such that they would be dependent on fast chargers for most of their charging.

Niche? Yes, but it is a big and growing niche. And I bet that as more people see how well the EV works for the guy down the street, the niche will grow. (Think about Dr Smith looking at his buggy as Dr Jones goes by in his model T)
I can see as the percentage EV/ICE vehicles come out I can see more employee parking lots apartment PL will be wired.