Door sticker says never exceed 1263 lbs of cargo/passengers.

BenK wrote:


Anyone remember the time there were no seat belts?

Sure! And not only do I remember the dimmer switch on the floor (far left), but the starter was also on the floor, near the accelerator on Dad's '49 Chevy. Only had one tail-light too. I think we might have been over the yellow-sticker payload in this pic. I'm the handsome fellow in the plaid shirt on the far right.

Marty and my Uncle Bill are the only two I know who bought/own base models
(edit)...add thunder to that list... :B

Uncle Bill owned a custom stainless kitchen sheetmetal shop and all of his trucks
were base models.

Back then, the bed could be ordered with wood flooring. After a few years of nailing
stuff down...those wood planks were no longer able to hold nails. One of my
jobs was to replace those planks

Now that the windshield washer foot pump was mentioned...I do remember them, but
forgot all about them

Even remember bare/painted sheetmetal dash boards. Padded came in a bit before
I started driving

Anyone remember the time there were no seat belts?

Thunderbolt wrote:
I did weigh it. It is an extended cab,short box 4x4 with 6.0 liter gas engine and it was just under 5,800 without me in it. Of course the truck was empty. The diesel trucks of that year were around 7,000.

BenK wrote:

Thunderbolt wrote:
snip....
My 2003 silverado 2500HD, LS trim with gas engine has 2,732 lbs of payload and 9,200 GVWR. That includes a 150 lb person in each seat and full tank of fuel.My truck weighs 5,800 and I weigh 220 so technically I have 3,330 lbs of payload. I have had over 3,000 pounds in it and I assure you I wouldn't be comfortable with that weight on a regular basis. 2,000- 2,500 lbs would be more realistic.

Go out and actually weigh it...guessing you'll be surprised that it
will weigh closer to +7K lbs than 5,800. Betcha a Costo Dog Lunch... :B


Then everything else that is based on that 'curb' weight will be reduced...

My 88 ext cab with a BB and std 8' bed was a shade under 6000 lbs. The 96 CC diesel was 6600 or there abouts.......some rigs weigh more, some a bit less, depends upon options.....then again, My 2000 reg cab C2500 with TWO chargable options, ie auto trans, factory hitch, or and trim rings, is 4800 lbs!

Marty

I did weigh it. It is an extended cab,short box 4x4 with 6.0 liter gas engine and it was just under 5,800 without me in it. Of course the truck was empty. The diesel trucks of that year were around 7,000.

BenK wrote:

Thunderbolt wrote:
snip....
My 2003 silverado 2500HD, LS trim with gas engine has 2,732 lbs of payload and 9,200 GVWR. That includes a 150 lb person in each seat and full tank of fuel.My truck weighs 5,800 and I weigh 220 so technically I have 3,330 lbs of payload. I have had over 3,000 pounds in it and I assure you I wouldn't be comfortable with that weight on a regular basis. 2,000- 2,500 lbs would be more realistic.

Go out and actually weigh it...guessing you'll be surprised that it
will weigh closer to +7K lbs than 5,800. Betcha a Costo Dog Lunch... :B


Then everything else that is based on that 'curb' weight will be reduced...

ryanw821 wrote:

Sport45 wrote:
Ever find yourself reaching with your left foot for the button to dim your headlights?

(Or worse yet, trying to use your left foot to pump water onto the windshield :))

Hate to admit, but I've done both. Of course our '83 F-100 still has the floor button for the hi-beams. The floor mounted washer pump was on an older truck I drove when I was a teenager working at a Boy Scout Camp.

I had an 86 Bronco "winter beater" a few years back with the high-beam still mounted on the floor too. Being in my early 30's gotta say that was a trip, first for me, gotta admit it took me a while to figure that one out. Totally remember crank windows though, I've never had a vehicle with them, but I remember my parents/grandparents having them when I was young. Never heard of foot pump for washer fluid though.

My 2007 F-350 has window cranks. Now if you go way back my 55 Dodge truck No A/C, and no power anything. The 55 did have a tube AM radio. 273 V-8 with 3 in the tree. The fan belt turned the water pump and 6 volt generator. The wippers were vacuum so the faster you drove the slower they went. The back bumper was a section of railroad track.

Sport45 wrote:
Ever find yourself reaching with your left foot for the button to dim your headlights?

(Or worse yet, trying to use your left foot to pump water onto the windshield :))

Hate to admit, but I've done both. Of course our '83 F-100 still has the floor button for the hi-beams. The floor mounted washer pump was on an older truck I drove when I was a teenager working at a Boy Scout Camp.

I had an 86 Bronco "winter beater" a few years back with the high-beam still mounted on the floor too. Being in my early 30's gotta say that was a trip, first for me, gotta admit it took me a while to figure that one out. Totally remember crank windows though, I've never had a vehicle with them, but I remember my parents/grandparents having them when I was young. Never heard of foot pump for washer fluid though.

Ever find yourself reaching with your left foot for the button to dim your headlights?

(Or worse yet, trying to use your left foot to pump water onto the windshield :))

Hate to admit, but I've done both. Of course our '83 F-100 still has the floor button for the hi-beams. The floor mounted washer pump was on an older truck I drove when I was a teenager working at a Boy Scout Camp.

BenK wrote:
Yep and I'm old enough to remember those days...and...those good old
days never left...

Still get tons of arguments saying that can't be...it's not fair...

I also remember that power windows/lock/seats/etc were not even order-able
back 'then' on a pickup

Heck, even remember a time when the coinage 'SUV' hadn't been invented yet...


That a pickup was the cheapest vehicle you could buy in comparison with
the cars of that day

Sport45 wrote:

ib516 wrote:


2) GM and Ford are/were both liars when it comes to their payload ratings. They each do/used to remove equipment (like bumpers, spare tires, radios, and center consoles) before weighing the truck so they can artificially increase the payload rating.

Maybe I'm too old, but I remember when you didn't get a bumper, jack, radio, a/c, or spare tire unless you ordered them, and many of the folks I knew didn't. The truck would come with a spare wheel and they'd mount a used tire on it for much less than buying a new one from Detroit. Same with bumpers. They'd either move the one form the old truck if it wasn't beaten up too bad or buy (often make) a new one. Didn't see too many trucks with a/c either. Most had the windows rolled down (manually). The way Ford and GM rate their payload may be a throwback to "the good old days".

And if it did have a bumper it would be a silver channel bumper with the dealers name stamped or engraved on it. That truck did not arrive at the dealer with a bumper.

I bought a used 1997 Ford Ranger about 8 years ago. No power windows or locks, no cruise, manual 5 speed, etc... A/C, heat and 4 round tires. I was showing it to my then 21 yr old DD #1. She noticed a knob on the door and asked what that was for. I explained to her that opens and closes the window. She confusingly said "No button??" She tried it and immediately stated "No wonder you always say roll down the window. I never knew why you would say that until now."

BenK wrote:

Thunderbolt wrote:
snip....
My 2003 silverado 2500HD, LS trim with gas engine has 2,732 lbs of payload and 9,200 GVWR. That includes a 150 lb person in each seat and full tank of fuel.My truck weighs 5,800 and I weigh 220 so technically I have 3,330 lbs of payload. I have had over 3,000 pounds in it and I assure you I wouldn't be comfortable with that weight on a regular basis. 2,000- 2,500 lbs would be more realistic.

Go out and actually weigh it...guessing you'll be surprised that it
will weigh closer to +7K lbs than 5,800. Betcha a Costo Dog Lunch... :B


Then everything else that is based on that 'curb' weight will be reduced...

I don't know about that, my '00 Crew Cab F-250 2WD V10 weighs 6200# with me and a half-tank of gas. Maybe GM's are heavier.

That said, I've still only got around 2000# payload with 8800# GVWR.

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