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Without an extension, your Rubicon on the trailer is going to add 660# to the rear axle. So with an extension, you can figure it is going to be closer to 690#. This assumes just the jeep and trailer, not much gear or spares stacked on it.

Quick look at the floor plans and I'll rule out the Adventurer 910DB because there isn't hardly any storage down in the main floor. Putting all the gear up by the bed isn't convenient, especially on those mornings when your wife wants to sleep in but you want to hit the trails early to beat the rush.

TCM wet weights for the other two are AF992 @ 4,900 and Lance 975 @ 4425. But since the AF comes with more standard features, the weight is probably going to be much closer than the numbers show. Both of those campers are well built so it basically comes down to the floor plans.

In floor plans, I have to give my nod to the AF because of the smaller sink but larger floor space of the bathroom. After all, do you really need a large sink space in the bathroom?

With the weight, figuring about 6,200# total, you will need to at least have a heavy duty rear sway bar and probably air bags to be happy with the ride. May also want to think about an equalizer hitch for the trailer which will help transfer the tongue weight off the rear axle.

By the way, I use to haul a built CJ-8. Then I finally realized wheelin was fun, but just camping was relax. Enjoy your adventurers.

That's excellent. Thank you. Frustrating that a single slide and trailer more than maxes out duallys. I couldnt imagine hauling around a 3 slider on anything less then 5 class.

BTW what she really wants is a Super C diesel, but let's not get crazy here. I like having a truck.

I own 2014 Adventurer 910db which is a well built, well insulated heavy TC with a king bed, oversized dinette, and good storage especially in outside slide. Having said that I would lean towards the Lance. Seems like a nice floorplan. Especially like the ultra deck option.

Not exactly on topic to the camper but a sidebar discussion for you to consider. If your going to be towing a lot, consider having your tow trailer tongue modified to be extendable so that it reaches the hitch on the truck without the super truss extension. I had a local trailer shop do this for my 12ft cargo trailer. When the camper is off the truck, I can tow the trailer in a normal configuration. When the camper is on however, I pull a pin on the trailer tongue, slide it out about 4ft and replace the pin. Now my tongue will easily reach the hitch on the truck. No need to hassle with a heavy super truss setup and it reduces the stress on the truck as the closer your hitch is to the axle, the less moment arm there is exerting pressure.

adamis wrote:
Not exactly on topic to the camper but a sidebar discussion for you to consider. If your going to be towing a lot, consider having your tow trailer tongue modified to be extendable so that it reaches the hitch on the truck without the super truss extension. I had a local trailer shop do this for my 12ft cargo trailer. When the camper is off the truck, I can tow the trailer in a normal configuration. When the camper is on however, I pull a pin on the trailer tongue, slide it out about 4ft and replace the pin. Now my tongue will easily reach the hitch on the truck. No need to hassle with a heavy super truss setup and it reduces the stress on the truck as the closer your hitch is to the axle, the less moment arm there is exerting pressure.

Any clearance issues when turning? Or do you use a foldable jack? I like that idea

Nwatkins176 wrote:

adamis wrote:
Not exactly on topic to the camper but a sidebar discussion for you to consider. If your going to be towing a lot, consider having your tow trailer tongue modified to be extendable so that it reaches the hitch on the truck without the super truss extension. I had a local trailer shop do this for my 12ft cargo trailer. When the camper is off the truck, I can tow the trailer in a normal configuration. When the camper is on however, I pull a pin on the trailer tongue, slide it out about 4ft and replace the pin. Now my tongue will easily reach the hitch on the truck. No need to hassle with a heavy super truss setup and it reduces the stress on the truck as the closer your hitch is to the axle, the less moment arm there is exerting pressure.

Any clearance issues when turning? Or do you use a foldable jack? I like that idea

No clearance issues that I have encountered and I've driven about 1000 miles at this point with it. I did have the rear jacks raised about 6" just to give a bit more clearance when I'm turning. I've been on some pretty small narrow, winding and steep roads and yet to encounter a problem. It does seem counterintuitive that there is enough clearance but there is. Here are some pictures of the setup to reference. One of those pictures I took while at a turn on a driveway that had a fairly steep angle between the ramp and the road. You can see there is still quite a bit of clearance even at that angle.

I wouldn't take it 4x4ing but as a pavement queen it works quite well.

I like it. Thanks for posting the pics

2011 Ram 3500 LB DRW crew cab 4X4. There will be dry camping and towing a built 2016 Rubicon on a car Hauler. Gen is mandatory and so is AC.

The Arctic Fox is going to be every bit of 5000 pounds of camper on the truck. The Lance will likely be slightly less weight but not enough to make a big difference. However, you have over 12,000 pounds of rear tire and wheel capacity; over 9300 pounds of rear axle capacity and extremely doubtful you will ever come close to maxing out either with any of the campers you have identified. You might want air bags and some more suspension mods but the truck should be good for any of the three campers. You may well be over gross vehicle weight ratings but should be solidly under tire and axle ratings. If being under gross weight is important then there are always 550/5500 trucks.

Thank you. I was worried about payload but I know the axle ratings are more important. That is why I'm staying away from anything with two slides. If I ever go to a class 5 truck I imagine itwill be a class c diesel motorhome.

Why is payload and GVWR typically lower than axle ratings? What is the weak link in the truck to give it a lower payload? Ram list payload of my truck and all duallys as 4700 pounds for that year. Only thing higher is a two wheel drive single cab gas thing. No thank you.

Idk what the other 2 campers look like compar d to the AF, but for towing a trailer, a vertical overhang below truck bed level necessitates an expensive truss hitch basically whereas a no overhang like an AF allows for other options.