Electric and ICE forever together?
Was told by a car salesperson that don't be fooled into thinking ICE Vehicles will not be manufactured anymore or sold after 2035. He said they will still be manufactured along with electric ones and ...
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way2roll wrote:2oldman wrote:way2roll wrote:Automobile and truck tailpipe emissions of co2.
Not a single person has yet to explain to me what problems EV's are actually solving.
Yeah it's always "tailpipe emissions". That was the original earth saving mantra. Unfortunately that's only a small percentage of the actual impact. You think the machines that mine raw materials have decent tailpipe emissions? How about the ships that transport it, or the trucks that delver them? How about the caustic and hazardous waste, ecological impact from mining, continued dependency on foreign nations and the lack of their eco and humanitarian friendly operations? Nevermind the continued emissions and impact from producing electricity to run EV's. Ev's aren't saving the planet and reciting "tailpipe emissions" means you haven't bothered to do any real research on the topic. You have to look deeper. You'd think people really interested in saving the planet would do the homework to ensure that their fancy purchase is having the actual benefit they have been lead to believe.
But snippet "talpipe emissions" and bury heads in sand to justify the continued digging in pockets to support them. Just don't look behind the curtain so you can keep feeling good about it.
Of course the ever popular responses when presented with these facts are "we never really cared about it being green, they're just cool".
Years back, a company I hauled for had a portable rock crusher powered by a Cat 3406E driving a generator. Same time, I was running a 3406E in Pete, hauling the rock. If I ran a 10 hour day, I expected to pump 100 gallons of fuel in it. But the fuel tank on that generator was only 60 gallons. If they wanted to run over 10 hours better put more fuel in. Somehow I don't think the 2 engines put out the same pollution.
You want to include all the pollution of production and transportation of materials and vehicles in the total for EVs. Asa example, is it cleaner to mine the coal, make the coke, if the steel goes into the body of ICE powered car?
I don't know how much overlap there is between the group NEED A NEW CAR EVERY 3 YEARS, and the NEVER HAVE EV crowd. But if there is any overlap, the All new will be EV mandate will save a lot of pollution just because people will want to drive the ICE they have for a lot longer.
