Electric and ICE forever together?

Huntindog wrote:

Thermoguy wrote:
The amount of EV haters and EV illiterates on this site amazes me. What I don't understand is if you have an RV and you boondock, you have an EV. You have to determine how much battery power you have, how long you can go on that battery, and what to do when the battery gets low. You have all the same issues as any EV vehicle has, range anxiety, charging concerns, etc. How do you go through your day with all those concerns. I know, you use a generator that burns gas. Without one you can't boondock!! hmmm... Only lots of people on here find ways to use things like solar and other power sources.

How is driving an EV any different? Hopefully everyone understands our government is doing every thing it can to change how many charging stations are available and where. Not that you will find one off grid, but you might have one within a few miles of that dirt road. If you have a 200 mile range and you are leaving pavement, you probably won't run out of electricity unless you just aren't paying attention, but as someone said, then you would probably run out of gas as you don't pay attention to that gauge also. I know, you lose lots of range when you hook up to a trailer. There are only 2 EV trucks on the market today, there are 2 more coming, what's coming after that. What will you think when range with a trailer is 600 miles and you have more torque than any diesel truck out there... you might change your mind?

Also, EV really does not mean Electric Vehicle, it means any vehicle that doesn't burn fossil fuels as its main source of power. That opens a lot of doors in the next 10 years.

I don't have one. If I had an extra 100K I would be looking at the new Sierra with 400 mile range. It wouldn't tow my RV, but that will change in the near future.

take the basic math you learned in high school and do the math on just what it would take to recharge with a rv solar system or generator. then get back to me.

I never suggested you would charge an EV with solar or a generator, I suggested that if you boondock with an RV then you are already familiar with DC powered life and you know how to calculate what you need to get where you are going or how long you will be there.

^My point exactly.
The biggest takeaway from these threads, aside from the obvious infatuation with technology and obvious political leaning, is using any “tow vehicle” with current technology is great for the 300mile/3pm Over the Hill Club!
200mi in a day and a lunch break at 100mi? Roflmao!!

It would take me all day and half the next to get to work some days….at that rate!
Bad part is, no matter what current unloaded range is, I’d have to take some serious breaks, on the clock, to even get from one side of the state to the other here driving one o them rolling Energizer commercials.
Let’s see some real world tests, nvm, I know what they’d show, but for the hopes and dreams crowd…. 90+mph, with a stout headwind , small load, just maybe a couple thousand lbs in the bed or a little cargo trailer how far will a Cyberturck go? Nvm it won’t go because it doesn’t exist yet.
How about a Ford or a Rivian?

Again, not an EV hater, love to have one if I wanted to spend my money frivolously. Just a realist.

Grit dog wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?

I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice.

If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there.

Well, you wouldn’t be “praying you would make it there”. You would know before you left wherever you are exactly what charge you would arrive with at your destination. If it says you can’t make it and you leave anyway then you are going to the wrong destination or have the wrong vehicle to get there. It’s not that hard. Right tool for the right job.

No, you’re exactly right. And in the populous areas of the country, bingo bango,you can fill up them depleted Duracells somehow every hundred miles when they go dead.
For those of us who travel in less populated areas I guess just keep that spare gas powered truck around for the big trips….

Edit:
How would I know exactly what charge I’d have? Is it like a DTE on normal vehicles?
Or is there some magic that happens in EVs that predict grades, winds, how much my mileage will drop based on knowing what I’m loading into it or towing?
What if I’m headin to Havre but decide to go to Chester because the fishin is better?

I was raised in Chinook , don't remember if there were charging stations there or not . :B Heading west thru Havre over towards Browning is where the good fishing is . Chinook to Browning is just shy of 200 miles ,then over to Mission Reservoir to fish should be okay ,as long as you charged back up in Browning , I'm sure they have plenty of charging stations . :R

2oldman wrote:

nickthehunter wrote:
So what you’re saying is - if you leave, make sure you have at least 25% in reserve or make a new plan.

I read it as 75% in reserve.

No. You misunderstood. Here driving on the top 3/4’s of the tank means you assume your bottom quarter is not there, and it becomes your reserve. Good advice on winter. Traffic issues are common in winter here.

Hope that helps.

nickthehunter wrote:
So what you’re saying is - if you leave, make sure you have at least 25% in reserve or make a new plan.

In the winter? Yes. Most of us are taught that way when we are young. And BC highways recommend da it as well.

Do any of us take a highway trip without filling up first?

My day use of an RV would be supported by level 1 charging.

My preferred charge level around town would be 50% and I'd recharge when I reached 40%. I would certainly not exceed 85%.

If, on the other hand I were going 205 miles, I'd fully charge, and do a lunch stop at 100 miles.

nickthehunter wrote:
So what you’re saying is - if you leave, make sure you have at least 25% in reserve or make a new plan.

I read it as 75% in reserve.

FRFrank wrote:

free radical wrote:

Since we talk trucks. Cybrtrk w over milion reservations will be seling like proverbial hot cakes for many years and no doubt will outperform every other truck,just like Tesla cars do.

Frankly, that's a load of BS. Try loading up a cube of bricks or 25 sheets of 5/8" drywall in that non existent Cybertruck. Are you going to tie it on the roof? Glorified grocery getter or soccer ball delivery truck.

Hard to explain to the sheeple, but know that you’re correct….

So what you’re saying is - if you leave, make sure you have at least 25% in reserve or make a new plan.

nickthehunter wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
How many of use carry a spare gas (or diesel) can full of fuel as we travel on well travelled highways?

I do agree that for off road EV may not be a wise choice.

If by “off road” you mean rural vs urban, maybe.
It’s funny how the closed minds refuse to acknowledge that if one booked a new EV truck/suv to any sort of substantial trailer, there are many paved roads in both of our countries where it wouldn’t make it to the next charging station or at a bare minimum you’d be chasing charging stations and praying you made it there.

Well, you wouldn’t be “praying you would make it there”. You would know before you left wherever you are exactly what charge you would arrive with at your destination. If it says you can’t make it and you leave anyway then you are going to the wrong destination or have the wrong vehicle to get there. It’s not that hard. Right tool for the right job.

So do I understand correctly? Before you leave your EV knows whether or not you will have the seat warmers on, whether or not you will need the windshield wipers (and at what speed), what cabin temperature you will want (taking into consideration outside temp), and how long you will be stuck in traffic due to a bad accident. That’s a pretty amazing car!

Kind of. First of all seat heaters and windshield wipers are pretty much irrelevant in the calculation. But yes if your seat heaters are on they are calculated, along with the daily forecast for wind speed, elevation, air density, outside temperature, inside temperature etc etc etc.

And just like a gas vehicle the driver has to plan for traffic holdups or snow slides or whatever. If you count on the car using 2 or 3 percent per hour in a winter traffic holdup you are good. When I was young my dad taught all the kids to drive on the top 3/4 of the tank in winter just in case. We still do that. Same with a battery vehicle. An EV doesn’t use much power just suiting there keeping you warm or cold.

Hope that helps.