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  • Dadoffourgirls wrote:
    After the Volt and Bolt, I have my reservation!

    I agree I had a volt for 2 tears the first year they sold. Got a super lease as they weren't selling $120 a month. It was a great car for our needs as we had a 2500 GMC for long trips etc. It was a blast to drive and I would leave the big dodge PUs at the light when they taunted me. I am needing an EV that is bigger now as we are older and getting in and our of small cars doesn't get it any more so maybe a GM electric truck will be the answer. We also had an Avalanche and it was fun this truck looks like a copy.
  • They say 400 miles range without a trailer, so 200, maybe only 150 if you want a little reserve with a trailer. Using the don't go below 80% discharge some suggest, even less. Oh well the 50 amp is waiting in the garage. Then the problem of charging in the park, but they are coming, baby steps at first. I know that most (almost all?) will be grocery gitters.
  • garyemunson wrote:
    After the sh*t show of the Volt, ELR and Bolt, I'll never get a GM EV.


    Can’t comment on a volt but a bolt is a pretty solid car and you would be hard pressed to find very many unhappy bolt owners. The battery thing is a bit of a stain on the bolt but GM is being pretty stand up ish about it and owners are farther ahead than they were when their car was new.

    Besides, the Silverado is on a whole new platform. I’ll wait till it’s on the road to draw any conclusions but it is a whole new generation of EV for GM and shares little in common with previous EV’s.

    Last to the table is Ram. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. So far though Ford and GM seem to be coming out with some pretty decent products. Time will tell.
  • Does anyone have any figures on what percentage of each pickup class is used to tow?

    I could see the compact (ranger/colorado/tacoma/etc) being prime for EV conversion. I'm betting the vast majority never do any serious towing and most rarely haul anything significant in the bed. It would be fairly easy to outfit them as an EV and the bulk of buyers would not experience any significant loss due to towing capability...since they don't use it.

    At the 1/2ton it may be a numbers game. Say with the F150 selling something like 1 million units per year, even if 20% never tow, that's still 200k units per year that may be viable for battery EV.

    By the time you get up in the 3/4 & 1 ton models, a large enough percentage are used regularly for towing, it may not be viable.

    Another thought: What about a modular BEV/PUHB system? Maybe a modest 125-150mile battery range but you can upgrade for an extra $5-10k for a 15kw propane generator (no worries about gas/diesel going bad) that is designed to mount in the front of the truck bed. That keeps the battery cost down making the truck more sellable but if you are doing a long weekend and worried about range, you can throw the generator in the truck (but you don't take a hit on range dragging the generator around). In long range mode, the generator would start immediately before the battery bank runs down. Not towing, this would likely double the range of the truck. It would also be more than sufficient for household backup power. Even for a lot of people doing modest towing, it may make it viable.
  • jdc1's avatar
    jdc1
    Explorer II
    2023 will be see a host of EV offering from Ford and GM.
  • Waiting to see if average Joe who just needs a basic truck will be able to get at truck.