EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

Huntindog wrote:

propchef wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

propchef wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7.
Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much.
So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending.
Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.

I assume there is an agenda or bias within the reporting.

Post the article at length so we can have real comments.

It wasn't a factual, in-depth article, it was on the "Opinions" page.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/electric-vehicle-ev-power-grid-electricity-shortage-11652302212

BYW, this article is subscription/password based, but it's someone's opinion, same as anyone posting here.

That is not the right article.
The one I was talking about did not even mention EVs.
Nor did I in my post

Fair enough, but to avoid this it helps to actually post or quote the article. We have to guess. I imagine the article you're referencing is also someone's opinion.

I did not take it as an opinion piece. It was not in the opinion section, and they quoted sources and used specific projects in different countries and businesses. I had a thought that I might be able to find it on my digital WSJ app. I was not. The oldest it shows is Jan.5
so I cannot PROVE it to everyones satisfaction.... But I think that any level headed person can see that it makes sense.

The green proponents cannot deny the issue. They always state the solution will be found. All we need to to do is go all in.

That is a BIG,BIG bet.

If you don't mind my opinion, the articule is a conclusion, based on an assumption on what it will happen if a certain set of conditions remain the same. And you hit the nail in the head, companies won't do something that will be detrimental for them. Technology will progress and we will continue down the path untill we get to a road block and there we will stop. I believe distributions is a bigger problem than generation. Increasing charging capacity to feed increasing battery capacity in vehicles will demand redirection of power suppy to more populated areas and highways in much higher volume than currently used. Installing a 250kw charger (single one) is $150K. A 500kw or more charger requires cable active cooling and 800 to 1000V, so I would say at least $300K each.
Once you reach these type of problems this is beyond green proponents, you reach regular people that will simply judge investment on cost and convenience, basically ROI.
And if we were to install these superchargers, there is no way to get power to them.
So at the end of the day, the article is based on assumptions and it is, at the end, the opinion of the writer. I don't agree with him, I believe we will have other problems sooner than that that will slow the grouth of EVs.
But then again, that is just my opinion...