EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

RambleOnNW wrote:

map40 wrote:
Let's get back to the thread before this goes political and the moderators end up having to close this out. No state will ban EVs and although EVs will grow in the market, they won't displace ICEs.
As far as Hydrogen, the chasllenges are even worse than electricity for massive applications. Although it is fast to transfer to the vehicle, the space required to accomodate a decent amount in a vehicle is significantly more than gas or batteries and the distribution network is non-existent (keep in mind, for EVs the distribution network was already built). Production of hydrogen continues to be a problem unles the latest new technologies work out (like direct-from-sea hydrogen mining).
Hydrogen is today where EVs were 15-20 years ago, after Honda and GM produced their first electric cars. The technology has great potential, but there won't be real market applications for at least a decade.

First of all, the phase-out of ICE vehicles in some states by 2035 still allows for 20% plug-in hybrid ICE vehicles. Also hydrogen vehicles are EVs, Fuel-cell-electric-vehicles (FCEV) and they are included in the EV 2035 mandates.

Hydrogen is far more energy dense than lithium batteries. The Nexo in the previous article has a capacity of 14 lbs of hydrogen which has a gross energy of 250 kWh which allows for a 380 mile range.

The US is planning to fund up to 8 hydrogen hubs. Actually hydrogen is being distributed via liquid hydrogen tankers today and can be used to distribute the hydrogen from the hubs.

US will have to race to keep up with the progress of the rest of the world. Europe is phasing out diesel semis by 2040. Green hydrogen produced fossil-free steel was shipped to Volvo 18 months ago link. Denmark for example is planning a 1 GW, 400 ton per day green hydrogen facility that will fuel 1/3 of their semi trucks. You can view the design here.. Australia goes all-in on green hydrogen link.

I agree with everything you wrote. Those transporting trucks are time-dependent as the hydrogen needs to be maintained well below -250C (-420F aprox) and if it goes up (that it will) the hydrogen boils and it becomes gas and it is wasted.
I drove hydrogen cars, both ICE and fuel-cell. I even build my own hydrogen ICE car (2 of them actually). They are great vehicles and great technology. Hydrogen packs a lot of energy, but it is still being develped. The current vehicles are high efficiency and considered at this point experimental. The latest hydrogen v8 engine that has been advertised as the replacement for the gas v8 would require the trunk and the rear seats to be hydrogen storage to make 250 miles of range. Fuel-cells are the best alternative, but there is a limit of how much power they can produce.
Again, I believe it has more potential that regular BEVs, but at this point is a matter of time, we are ways away.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying is bad, on the contrary, I believe in the long run it might be better than electric for heady and long distance applications even replacing gas and diesel; but it is still at least 15 years away until is in the mainstream market.