F-150 3.0 diesel Pictures

ShinerBock wrote:

All manufacturers follow each other if something works. Ford was the first to make a crew cab in a half ton. Now how many do you see out there? Ford was the first to have a crew cab long bed in a half ton. Now how many do you see out there. GM was the first to use a hydro-formed frame in a half ton. Now how many use them? Ford and GM had 6 speeds in their trucks for years while Ram was still using a 5 speed. So what is your point here?

Although a diesel in a half ton is not really anything new. It has been done before. All the makes tested diesels in their half tons in the early 2000s as well and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it due to low customer demand. In Ford's case, they are right since the 3.5L Ecoboost overwhelmingly out sales the Ecodiesel hands down. Why go with an engine that only sales maybe 100,000 trucks a year when you can have one that sales 200,000 per year?

Like I keep saying. If this diesel in the F150 is the 3.0L and not the V8 3.6L then it is only for those that want to save fuel and are wiling to sacrifice performance for it which is a very small percentage of buyers. Just like the Ecodiesel, it will be no where near the towing performer of the 3.5L Ecoboost or Hemi. Not even close. With today's fuel prices, most are not willing to give up of the performance of their Hemi or Ecoboost if they get at least 16-17 mpg combined. It is worth the extra money to them for the added performance loaded and unloaded regardless of who likes to get to the top of the hill first.

Also, you said something that your 8-speed truck beat a 6-speed Ecoboost off the line. I hope you mean the 2.7L because their is no way it will with the 3.5L even with the two gear advantage of ypur truck.

Shiner, minor correction. RAM is maxed out on Ecodiesel production and sells every one they produce. They can't make any more Ecodiesels than they are now (and they already expanded capacity as far as they can for now at the VM factory). This maxes out at about 15% of all RAM 1500's produced being Ecodiesel equipped. Ford probably sees that RAM can't keep up with the market and why it's probably a good idea to jump in while there is an actual scarcity in a market with demand. These will be interesting times in the near future. I think Ford will have ultimately more Diesel building capacity and we can get a good picture of what the overall take rate would be on a diesel half ton since they're probably better equipped to meet market demand.