F-150 HDPP?

The OP hasnt posted enough info for the advisors here....him following that advice and making very poor choice for his father

As the OP might purchase #4 in JIMNLIN’s quote below without checking the door label (as the OP has stated,that he does NOT wish to check labels) and that has the potential of being a dangerous setup...again, depending on his father's trailer specs

#4 is truly a grocery getter...there are cars and mid-sized trucks with similar RGAWR’s...

Worse yet, if they are looking for a fully optioned F150...wonder if they make #4’s in a crew configuration ?

JIMNLIN wrote:
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If the truck is available to look at open the drivers side door and look at the GVWR placard. The HDPP will read 7850 gvwr on newer models or 8200 on the older models.

Ford also has several other F150 packages. look at the same door placard for these GVWR numbers.


#1. 7850 gvwr...4800 rawr....2500 lb in the bed payloads.

#2. 7600 gvwr...4550 rawr... 2200 lb in the bed payloads

#3. 7050 gvwr...4050 rawr... 1800 lb in the bed payloads

#4. 6800 gvwr...3800 rawr...1500 lb in the bed payloads.

All can have a max tow option however max tow doesn't increase payload.

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Max tow has fooled many F150 owners into thinking it mans max towing. Example is the 6800 gvwr and tiny 3800 rawr can be had with max tow option. Max tow option is a good option....JMO the max tow is misleading to new folks.

Ben, snap out of it man! Go demand to get your b___s back out of your wifes purse immediately!

You're not going all weight cop on us now too....

For _____'s sake. The OP said small enclosed car hauler cargo trailer.

Unless you get the Secret Service model up armored with 3/8 steel plate on the walls and floor to protect from IED's and small arms fire, it's a ^$)@(*&%$ ing 3000-4000lb trailer headed to the swap meet to sell or collect junk.

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Personal experience with a “small “, open car hauler for the Vette owned with three others back around 69...and current experience with daughters Uhaul open hauler

These were 7,000 lb GVWR open car hauler trailers. How much would an enclosed car hauler be?

An open hauler for most cars would be around 18’ long for the bed...maybe less if the car is a subcompact/2-seater/etc

Open car haulers in that range should be around 1,500 to 2,000 lb range. The OP’s father has a enclosed hauler. So it should weigh more...maybe 2,500 to 3,000 lbs

Small car should be in the +3,000 range...maybe a subcompact bit less. My Vette was listed at 3,000,but with the L88 we stuffed into it, it weighed several hundred lbs more

A full sized sedan might be 4,000 or more lbs

Then spare parts, tools, tire/wheels, misc stuff might be another few hundred lbs more...or they travel without any of these

So a #4 might be fine...or...not...we don’t know what the heck the OP’s father has in regards to an enclosed car hauler...

My small 2 seater weighs around 2,100 lbs with me in it...nephews small 2 seater weighs around 3,400 lb with him in it...same OEM, same model line...just about 40 years apart

”small” is subjective...as is “small” in regards to an enclosed car hauler...

Not hauling a car in the trailer. It’s a 6x12 enclosed trailer.

Should have said that in your first post and when you were asked for the trailer specs

Maybe just troll...

I apologize, my original post was a little misleading with the way I worded it. I should have proof read it a little closer. Not a troll, I read the posts here daily and contribute where I can. This has actually been a very helpful discussion. My dad has several show cars, and there is a chance he may haul one with the truck from time to time, so you post was actually very helpful to me even though I was on another thought process when I created the post.

Years ago the "HDPP" trucks were easily identified by the 7-lug wheels, and for a few years, an "F250" badge on the F150 body style (as opposed to an F250 badge on the Super Duty body style).

As far as I know, the HDPP trucks made in the last several years are visually identical to any other F150 on the road. The only way to identify them is to look at the stickers.

I take it Ford does not have a sticker in the glove compartment with all the option packages? With a GM all you need to know is the 3-letter/digit option code, and whether it appears on the glove compartment sticker.

Am curious what your dad's show cars are ?

My 2 seater and Nephew's 2 seater are around 165 inches long. My old MGB was about 13 feet long. Ditto TR3's, Morgan's and Tiger's

They are considered small...and they won't fit inside a 12 feet long trailer

Guessing a Midget, BugEye, or something like them.

2 separate trailers. Open car hauler, small enclosed swap meet trailer. Classic air cooled Volkswagens.