Kevin O. wrote:
Lessmore wrote:
I dunno....if I was in the market for a new Ford f 150...I do believe I would want the 5 liter V8, rather than the Turbocharged V6.
I'm not sure of the exact power....but think I'm in the ballpark at 360 hp, 380 lbs. ft. of torque. That's real good and probably not that much less than the EB V6.
Observations:
- I prefer non turbocharged engines. Yes, I know a lot of engineering has gone into the EB V6, modern technology /design and materials have gone into the EB V6....of course extensive testing has been undertaken. But it's still hammering out a lot of power per liter....much more power per liter...than the non aspirated 5 liter V8. To me....somewhere along the line that spells more likelihood of potential trouble.
- I know that forced aspiration (turbo) will maintain power much better than a non aspirated engine (5 liter V8) at high altitudes.
- I prefer the sound of a V8 over a V6 or a 4 cylinder or a V10. I guess that's the ol' Hot Rodder in me.
- Even the 5 liter V8...what with it's DOHC engine seems a bit of the complicated side...all those extra parts over a OHV V8. Extra parts= extra things to go wrong. Maybe give me a less complicated 5.3 liter OHV Chevy V8 engine.
Another question is why does Ford have significantly less warranty than rivals GM and Chrysler with their generally less complicated engines ?
I believe the powertrain warranty for Ford is 5 years/60,000 miles....GM/Chrysler...5 years/100,000 miles ....having 40,000 less warranty miles is significant to my way of thinking.
My question is less warranty provided by Ford....because of relatively complicated engines ....ie; DOHC's....twin turbo V6 ?
But I do think the F150 with either engine is a fine vehicle. In fact one buddy just bought a 2012 and another buddy is looking seriously at the 2013 F 150...after he considered GM, Dodge and Ford.
Both liked the Ford F 150 very much. But the one that bought the 2012...got the 5 liter V8 and the other guy....will buy the 5 liter V8.
One other thing about any turbocharged engine...no matter who makes it....is spooling down the turbos and letting the bearings in the turbo cool down. Now I don't know if Ford has figured out how to avoid this...but I do know a lot of other turboed engines require this in order to extend turbo life.
If this is something that needs to be done (correct me if I'm wrong)...I would find idling for a minute or two each time I wanted to shut off the engine an inconvenience.
But if you can just shut the EB V6 down...quickly... like a regular gas engine....than it's not an issue.
Also what's the life of a turbo...same as the rest of the engine...or is it considered a service item that probably will need to be rebuilt/replaced before the engine requires a rebuild/replacement ?
The turbos on the Ecoboost are water cooled and when you shut down the engine there is still fresh coolant being pulled through them until they are sufficiently cool.You see diesel pickup trucks running over 300,000 miles with no turbo problems so why would the Ecoboost be any different?? As far as the horspower between the Eco - 5.0, they might be close in numbers but the game changer is when that power is available. The 5.0 reaches max torque at 4250rpms and the Eco at 2500rpms. When it comes to towing you want as much torque as soon as possible. Here is a older video that compares the Ecoboost against Chevy 5.3L, Tundra 5.7L, and the Dodge Hemi. I only wish they had the 5.0 in the video. But i figure it has to be relatively close to Chevy's 5.3L in power and towing performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2b3yHRfHDk
If I were looking at a .5 ton truck I would be looking real hard at a Ecoboost powered truck.
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