F150 Lightening
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Lots of interesting points on these pages regarding EV's. We all need to realize that it is going to happen and all vehicles will be electric one day. I just read a report about a autonomous truck that crossed the US. It did it faster and more efficiently that a similar human driven truck. I think it said 95 hours faster. It's coming faster than you think. The infrastructure is being built out fast to accommodate autonomous and electric. I just saw an electric charging station being put in where a gas station once stood.
However, the missing point on Green vehicles is - are they really green? How much Lithium Ion is needed for an F150 to drive? How about a fleet of them? Where is Lithium ion mined and how does it get to the US? Less than 1% comes from the US although there are mines in the US that are ramping up production. By the way, a mine can use a huge amount of water and be very environmentally unfriendly. I would say more than oil and gas. If you want to keep you IC, start making this argument...
Took this from Wikipedia:
The manufacturing processes of lithium, including the solvent and mining waste, presents significant environmental and health hazards.[132][133][134] Lithium extraction can be fatal to aquatic life due to water pollution.[135] It is known to cause surface water contamination, drinking water contamination, respiratory problems, ecosystem degradation and landscape damage.[132] It also leads to unsustainable water consumption in arid regions (1.9 million liters per ton of lithium).[132] Massive byproduct generation of lithium extraction also presents unsolved problems, such as large amounts of magnesium and lime waste.[136]
In the United States, there is active competition between environmentally catastrophic open-pit mining, mountaintop removal mining and less damaging brine extraction mining in an effort to drastically expand domestic lithium mining capacity.[137] Environmental concerns include wildlife habitat degradation, potable water pollution including arsenic and antimony contamination, unsustainable water table reduction, and massive mining waste, including radioactive uranium byproduct and sulfuric acid discharge.
But- by all means, lets shut down oil production in Alaska due to environmental concerns...
However, the missing point on Green vehicles is - are they really green? How much Lithium Ion is needed for an F150 to drive? How about a fleet of them? Where is Lithium ion mined and how does it get to the US? Less than 1% comes from the US although there are mines in the US that are ramping up production. By the way, a mine can use a huge amount of water and be very environmentally unfriendly. I would say more than oil and gas. If you want to keep you IC, start making this argument...
Took this from Wikipedia:
The manufacturing processes of lithium, including the solvent and mining waste, presents significant environmental and health hazards.[132][133][134] Lithium extraction can be fatal to aquatic life due to water pollution.[135] It is known to cause surface water contamination, drinking water contamination, respiratory problems, ecosystem degradation and landscape damage.[132] It also leads to unsustainable water consumption in arid regions (1.9 million liters per ton of lithium).[132] Massive byproduct generation of lithium extraction also presents unsolved problems, such as large amounts of magnesium and lime waste.[136]
In the United States, there is active competition between environmentally catastrophic open-pit mining, mountaintop removal mining and less damaging brine extraction mining in an effort to drastically expand domestic lithium mining capacity.[137] Environmental concerns include wildlife habitat degradation, potable water pollution including arsenic and antimony contamination, unsustainable water table reduction, and massive mining waste, including radioactive uranium byproduct and sulfuric acid discharge.
But- by all means, lets shut down oil production in Alaska due to environmental concerns...
