F350, 3500HD, or RAM 3500?

FishOnOne wrote:

dshelley wrote:
Cummins12v98, arguing with the Fish is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. You soon realize he likes it. He waves that same old tired "built on foreign soil" flag, but continues to blame it on labor costs rather than on duty taxes and trade agreements.

Spin it however you like dshelley, but perhaps you should bring some facts to table as I did. :B

Perhaps "Made in the USA" means something to the OP, but it's obvious it not important to you.

A new 6.7 PSD engine made by Ford is not "Made in the USA" its a Mexican engine. Having said that, it don't really matter now days with a global influence in production. Hell Spain, England, China, Japan and even Italy build good products be it with American know how or not. I suppose not being made in Texas is a insult to some, but not the vast majority or the world. What's next, where is the Apple watch made.... Not in the USA so I suppose it won't sell :R

Years ago we had two vehicles. One was Subaru wagon and the other was a Chevy diesel pick up truck. People would ask why I was driving a foreign vehicle - I'd ask them which one they were talking about. I always liked to watch the look on their face when I'd tell them the Subaru was built in the US and the Chevy truck wasn't......

Look at it this way, if we only bought things built in the US, look at all of the dock workers, train engineers, truck drivers, etc. we'd put out of work.

Bill

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

rangerbait wrote:
I realize this question is akin to asking blonde, brunette, or redhead, but figured I'd inquire as to whether there are general differences in the big 3 as far as their prowess as a TV. It will be 4x4 and diesel, or course. Thanks in advance!

I guess you have to ask yourself do you want to own a truck that is built in Mexico and owned by a foreign company (Fiat) then a RAM truck will fit that bill.

Or do you want to own a truck that's built in the USA and is a USA company then a Ford truck is the ticket. :B

OMG here we go again!

Let's not forget the only Diesel you will find in a 2015 F650/750 is a Cummins.

Let's not forget the Ford Diesel is MADE in Mexico. If they have General tires they are made in Mexico.

Lets just stick to what truck actually has it's claims backed up with independent testing. It's surely not Ford with it's 1999 based platform or GM since they don't comply to the SAE J2708 ratings as the entire RAM pickup line does.

Fact is FIAT has taken the already great RAM trucks to another level that has people taking notice and RAM sales are steadily climbing. Even the Ford loving Fast Lane Trucks guys are tired of the same ol truck from Ford.

And Fish RAM is assembled with the vast majority of it's parts made right here in USA.

This thread will be short lived!

Keep drinking the koolaid my friend!

News flash the new F650/F750 trucks have ditched the cummins in favor of the 6.7 Power Stroke and matched with their HD 6 speed tranny.

Just be aware of that "delicate" CP4 high pressure fuel pump. We can't forget that elephant in the room!

You need to drive all of them and research what they will haul. I went with Ford do to comfort for 2 short people. Their seats just work better. Went to DRW do to not wanting to be overweight. Love the way DRW pulls regardless of the brand. Good luck with your choice.

If one puts Fish on ignore like I did, you only see his posts when someone quotes him. So please stop quoting him! Chris

we find the Fords we have ridden in to be more comfortable than the other 2 brands. We enjoy the exhaust brake in our truck but we haven't compared it against other trucks ( its hard to compare without a load)
We enjoy the Fords power. Yeah I know it has 5lbs less torque than the Ram but it does have more than 50 HP more.
The whole package of our truck gives us a wonderful experience when using it and even it's size you get use to. But those wide hips do add stability.
In a lot of ways it's not much different than when I had motorcycles and sports cars as daily drivers. There were limitations you had to put up with to use the vehicle of choice. If you get hung up on what you don't like about your vehicle you can replace it.
If you are hung up on somebody else's choice ,,,well to bad. It's not your decision to make.
We don't feel we have the only good truck out there , We are just very happy with ours and think it is the best truck for us.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

rangerbait wrote:
I realize this question is akin to asking blonde, brunette, or redhead, but figured I'd inquire as to whether there are general differences in the big 3 as far as their prowess as a TV. It will be 4x4 and diesel, or course. Thanks in advance!

I guess you have to ask yourself do you want to own a truck that is built in Mexico and owned by a foreign company (Fiat) then a RAM truck will fit that bill.

Or do you want to own a truck that's built in the USA and is a USA company then a Ford truck is the ticket. :B

OMG here we go again!

Let's not forget the only Diesel you will find in a 2015 F650/750 is a Cummins.

Let's not forget the Ford Diesel is MADE in Mexico. If they have General tires they are made in Mexico.

Lets just stick to what truck actually has it's claims backed up with independent testing. It's surely not Ford with it's 1999 based platform or GM since they don't comply to the SAE J2708 ratings as the entire RAM pickup line does.

Fact is FIAT has taken the already great RAM trucks to another level that has people taking notice and RAM sales are steadily climbing. Even the Ford loving Fast Lane Trucks guys are tired of the same ol truck from Ford.

And Fish RAM is assembled with the vast majority of it's parts made right here in USA.

This thread will be short lived!

Keep drinking the koolaid my friend!

News flash the new F650/F750 trucks have ditched the cummins in favor of the 6.7 Power Stroke and matched with their HD 6 speed tranny.

dshelley wrote:
Cummins12v98, arguing with the Fish is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. You soon realize he likes it. He waves that same old tired "built on foreign soil" flag, but continues to blame it on labor costs rather than on duty taxes and trade agreements.

Spin it however you like dshelley, but perhaps you should bring some facts to table as I did. :B

Perhaps "Made in the USA" means something to the OP, but it's obvious it not important to you.

Cummins12v98, arguing with the Fish is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. You soon realize he likes it. He waves that same old tired "built on foreign soil" flag, but continues to blame it on labor costs rather than on duty taxes and trade agreements.

FishOnOne wrote:

rangerbait wrote:
I realize this question is akin to asking blonde, brunette, or redhead, but figured I'd inquire as to whether there are general differences in the big 3 as far as their prowess as a TV. It will be 4x4 and diesel, or course. Thanks in advance!

I guess you have to ask yourself do you want to own a truck that is built in Mexico and owned by a foreign company (Fiat) then a RAM truck will fit that bill.

Or do you want to own a truck that's built in the USA and is a USA company then a Ford truck is the ticket. :B

OMG here we go again!

Let's not forget the only Diesel you will find in a 2015 F650/750 is a Cummins.

Let's not forget the Ford Diesel is MADE in Mexico. If they have General tires they are made in Mexico.

Lets just stick to what truck actually has it's claims backed up with independent testing. It's surely not Ford with it's 1999 based platform or GM since they don't comply to the SAE J2708 ratings as the entire RAM pickup line does.

Fact is FIAT has taken the already great RAM trucks to another level that has people taking notice and RAM sales are steadily climbing. Even the Ford loving Fast Lane Trucks guys are tired of the same ol truck from Ford.

And Fish RAM is assembled with the vast majority of it's parts made right here in USA.

This thread will be short lived!