FCA Receives Certification for EcoDiesel

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
with or with out the filter?

With filter.

ShinerBock wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

brulaz wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The oil change is no more expensive then that of the Cummins. The filter has come down in cost to under thirty bucks.

Gad, I should hope not as expensive as the Cummins. The Cummins takes huge quantities of oil, and our local dealers seem to delight in ripping us off for the oil and the filter. I also have to change oil 2x per year just to maintain the warranty.

I end up spending 4-5X more per year on oil changes relative to my 2011 F150 Ecoboost.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I would hope the Ecodiesel should be a lot less to maintain than the Cummins.

The Ecodiesel uses 12 qts the Cummins uses 13 and my oil change is every 10,000 miles.

The 6.7L Cummins is 12 qts.

with or with out the filter?

A bit off topic but I just checked out the video of a disguised Wrangler. It sure does look like the frame hangs lower than previous Wranglers.

Link

Alpar has a short article on the coming Wrangler ED.

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

VernDiesel wrote:
As mentioned above about $60 to 65 using full synthetic T6. 10.5 quarts. I do the same 15k interval and a fuel filter every other oil change.

I could have sworn the Ecodiesel was 10k last I checked? If it is 15k now then that is even better for when I get one in the new Wrangler.

I also don't do synthetic. No need for it in the temps I live in. It never even gets below 20F here so it would just be a waste of money for me.

OCI on the EcoDiesel is 10k miles max.

You know I can't help but wonder if the Ecodiesel will ever go under the hood of a Wrangler. I recall reading that there were rumors of the engine going into the next gen Wrangler but I thought that would be a odd match.

Rumor is there are some Ecodiesel Wranglers running around Auburn Hills. :)

jus2shy wrote:


The only plus oil change wise on the Ecodiesel is that it's 10k miles or once a year. Cummins is 15k miles or every 6 months (twice a year). I maintain the twice a year oil change for the time being since I'm under warranty. I do drive 80% city too, so I'll probably keep that interval, I do severe duty changes on all my fluids due to stop and go conditions.

This has been a discussion topic a few times when I get together with my old friends that I used to work with at Cummins. Those of us who actually tested these engine never understood why Ram chose to always to post 6 month interval when that was only recommended (per Cummins) for vehicles who idle a lot or their duty cycle was at low speeds. For all other applications for the 6.7L with duty cycles that included highways speeds (like the recreational vehicles in the chart from Cummins Quickserve below), then the interval was 12 months rather than 6 months. We just concluded that Ram was just trying to play it safe even though the duty cycle that most Ram owners utilize their truck in require 12 months in other 6.7L applications.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

brulaz wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The oil change is no more expensive then that of the Cummins. The filter has come down in cost to under thirty bucks.

Gad, I should hope not as expensive as the Cummins. The Cummins takes huge quantities of oil, and our local dealers seem to delight in ripping us off for the oil and the filter. I also have to change oil 2x per year just to maintain the warranty.

I end up spending 4-5X more per year on oil changes relative to my 2011 F150 Ecoboost.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I would hope the Ecodiesel should be a lot less to maintain than the Cummins.

The Ecodiesel uses 12 qts the Cummins uses 13 and my oil change is every 10,000 miles.

The 6.7L Cummins is 12 qts.

Finally a wrangler with a bomber drivetrain. That's sweet. 400+ ft lbs and ZF trans

10,000 mile or 12 months unless the oil tender pops up sooner. It has alway been right at the 10,000 mile mark so far.

Don

FishOnOne wrote:


OCI on the EcoDiesel is 10k miles max.

You know I can't help but wonder if the Ecodiesel will ever go under the hood of a Wrangler. I recall reading that there were rumors of the engine going into the next gen Wrangler but I thought that would be a odd match.

I ran my 2004 ram 15,000 miles then 20,000 miles per Blackstone. I was also using Amsoil oil and filter changes every 10,000 miles.

2018 for the 3.0 Jeep Wrangler "The engines will, be as Allpar has predicted for months, be a two-liter four-cylinder, with a turbocharger, direct injection, and efficient belt-starter-generator stop-start system (the “Hurricane”); the 3-liter VM V6 diesel; and the continuing 3.6 liter V6. Transmissions are, as previously thought, a six-speed manual and eight-speed automatic — the latter coming in 850RE and 8HP75 forms. 850RE is made by FCA, and 8HP75 is made by ZF."
https://www.allpar.com/news/2017/08/2018-wrangler-jl-the-engines-confirmed-38277