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Lynneh
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Aug 09, 2017

First TT - Apex vs. Lance

We're getting ready to purchase our first TT. We've done a little looking and like Lance quality and the 1995 model. We're willing to go with a 2016 or newer used. The only catch is that we'd like to keep the investment under 20k and I'm not sure we can do that with the Lance.

One alternative we're going to look at this weekend is the Apex 191rbs. It looks like we could get a 2018 new somewhere around $16 or $17k. Then I expect there will be some add ons.

Any first hand experience or opinions? We want to buy something that will last within reason.

We plan to use the TT in 2 ways - for shorter local trips in beautiful NH and for at least 1 trip a year for 4+ weeks. We may want to do some boondocking in places like MT. Lance has 45g tanks/Apex 30g. Not sure what we would need for boondocking.

Thanks for your help!

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  • Hi Terryallan, thanks for the testament for Apex. I'll check them out this weekend.
  • I have nothing against the azdel product, but I'm pretty sure there there is no 50% improvement in insulation over competitors. I think it might be 50% higher than an equivalent piece of luan, which is already quite small, as compared to the foamboard or fiberglass insulation behind it. In fact, I just found a specific comparison that bears this out:
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    · 50% lighter than wood

    · Offers 3x the insulation value of wood
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    In reality that can't be completely accurate either because I'm sure different wood has different R values.
  • I have a 2013 Apex that was bought in 2012. It has been in hurricanes at the beach, and rain so hard you couldn't see the ocean, or the camper beside of you. It leaked ONE time. the wind was blowing the rain UP, Yes I said up. One of the speakers didn't close quick enough, and it leaked thru a speaker. NO WHERE ELSE. and didn't hurt anything since there is no wood in the walls. Nothing to rot. It is now 5 years old, and looks like new.

    As for insulation and weather. The APEX has AZDEL in the walls. AZDEL gives the TT 50% more insulation R value than TTs with out it. I know mine stays much cooler than the Fleetwood it replaced. I can't speak to the construction of the Lance.

    I will say. I had 2 catastrophic tire failures. Tires completely disappeared. The only damage to the TT was that a piece of molding was bent a little, and one of the low point drains caps spun open. But not off.

    So in short. I have no complaints about the APEX. Just bigger than I want. Sleeps 10, and I don't need that any more.
  • Thanks for the replies so far. Bobndot - thank you for the tip on the fan and Seal Tech. Little concerning I need to worry about leaks on a new RV but it's not the first time I've heard that.

    Red Lion, I appreciate the personal experience input. Would love to hear others input as well.
  • The Apex is more affordable and if you're happy with the floor plan, that would work for me.
    There are some simple things you can do on your own to make it more weatherproof. What you want is an RV that's dry and stays that way. As long as your N.H. dealer is reputable that's what is important.

    If the bathroom has a small useless vent fan, I would work into the contract, a swap for a Fantastic fan with a rain cover. You'll be much happier with an attic fan that can do the whole TT .

    Ask about doing a Seal-Tech test . It's not too much money and will show you all the potential leak points that you can seal up before things get out of hand.

    http://www.sealtechusa.com/media
  • My grandson bought his first and last Apex. Very little use and parts are falling off. I believe it is the same model you have in mind.