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LOFAT36
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Sep 11, 2016

Flogged to death but require info on tires

Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.

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  • westend's avatar
    westend
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    LOFAT36 wrote:
    Okay my question is why should I go to light truck tires as opposed to trailer tires ? I do no off roading unless you consider a 1/8 mile of gravel off road. I don't get it, better ride, stability, price ? Please explain.
    Better durability and higher speed ratings.

    FWIW, I have Carlisle Radial Trail RH, load D, on my axles. They have a higher speed rating than typical ST tires. They seem to be a good tire and readily available across the US at Discount Tire.
  • JIMNLIN's avatar
    JIMNLIN
    Explorer III
    Sep 12, 2016
    The Carlisle Radial Trail RH have been out since early '13. This from their new home page;

    ""Launched in early 2013, the Carlisle Radial Trail RH Radial Trailer Tire for Toy Haulers, Boat Trailers, Cargo Trailers, Utility Trailers, Stock Trailers and other towable applications. The new and improved second generation Radial Trail RH combines two new Carlisle technologies.""
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    IMO some ST supporters are over the top with their comments like;
    ""And just as predictably, LT folks will come along and smugly and condescendingly explain that anyone who uses ST's really doesn't understand, is kind of simple minded and easily duped, and doesn't mind throwing their money away on an inferior product,....... ""

    IMO these type remarks serve no purpose other than bash some with a differing opinion.
  • Huntindog's avatar
    Huntindog
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    rbpru wrote:
    That is, manufacturers use the type of tires they believe is suitable for their intended application.
    Interesting take.

    I have not noticed a horde of manufacturers rushing to equip their units with the "new" Carlise tire. In fact I have not read of any doing so.

    This might mean that the manufacturers do not believe that it is a quality tire.

    Or it might mean that it costs a little more than the others, and they won't pay more for a tire.
  • Huntindog's avatar
    Huntindog
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    brirene wrote:
    Wow, lots of old information being tossed around here. 2006? Low speed ratings? How many threads have you seen recently about "China bombs"? Except for the brother of my uncle's girlfriend on her mother's side had a blowout 8 years ago. Used to be on here all the time. Carlisle has improved their design already over one that I've yet to see a bad review about. Higher speed ratings too. I don't care what tires anyone runs. As was stated, it's your money. But at least base your argument on information from the current decade.
    Someone before you just stated that the 'new Carlise has been out 5 years.
    I am dead positive that is not true. Someone else recently posted they had been out about 10 months. I believe that is a lot closer to the truth.
    As for giving out info that is current.... I did. The tire testing standards. That is the one thing you can hang your hat on. All other claims are just that. Marketing claims. Made by the same companies that have always claimed that the tires they produced were great.
  • CKNSLS's avatar
    CKNSLS
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    brirene wrote:
    Wow, lots of old information being tossed around here. 2006? Low speed ratings? How many threads have you seen recently about "China bombs"? Except for the brother of my uncle's girlfriend on her mother's side had a blowout 8 years ago. Used to be on here all the time. Carlisle has improved their design already over one that I've yet to see a bad review about. Higher speed ratings too. I don't care what tires anyone runs. As was stated, it's your money. But at least base your argument on information from the current decade.



    Yep this rhetoric is so old-part of the reason this forum is down to 11 pages. People get tired of the same old out dated garbage.
  • rbpru's avatar
    rbpru
    Explorer II
    Sep 12, 2016
    The information I stated is still factual. The fact that some TT manufacturers use LTs reinforces my statement. That is, manufacturers use the type of tires they believe is suitable for their intended application.

    As was noted, LTs are usually found on high end TTs, representing a small portion of the TT market. Their reasons for using LTs is known to them but one can assume that LTs were selected to meet the TT maker's design criteria.

    Volumes can and have been written about why some manufacturers choose LTs over STs. Suggestions include everything from superior performance, to feeding the vanity of the anticipated buyer. All of which is just conjecture as to why they were selected.

    If one feels safer on LTs, for what ever the reason, that is what they should buy.

    If one prefers a higher load rated tire, they are available.

    Since many people do quite well with the OEM tires that came with their TT, I do not expect a major shift to LTs any time in the future. But, as always I could be wrong.
  • brirene's avatar
    brirene
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    Wow, lots of old information being tossed around here. 2006? Low speed ratings? How many threads have you seen recently about "China bombs"? Except for the brother of my uncle's girlfriend on her mother's side had a blowout 8 years ago. Used to be on here all the time. Carlisle has improved their design already over one that I've yet to see a bad review about. Higher speed ratings too. I don't care what tires anyone runs. As was stated, it's your money. But at least base your argument on information from the current decade.
  • creeper's avatar
    creeper
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    I've had multiple friends who I advised to swap out to LT truck tires. They laughed. 3 had blow outs on new campers so far. 1 did extensive damage to their new camper. They all have LT tires now and after many miles have no problem. I don't see a rash of LT tires exploding.

    Most ST tires have low speed ratings and would be hard to keep under it or keep from riding at the max speed most of the time. .
  • CKNSLS's avatar
    CKNSLS
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    "As for the "new" Carlise ST tires now being sold... Maybe they will pan out... But this is the same company that for many years told us how great their previous ST tires were... I am not interested in experimenting with my money on their tires any more. Fortunantly for Carlise, there is a new batch of consumers that are eager to believe and spend their money on them. I wish them well, and hope that they have better luck than many of us have had."


    Yep-old attitude. The new Carlisle tire has now been out for approximately 5 years and has had very good reports.

    Once a product is less than reliable a company can't improve it? Not according to you.
  • Huntindog's avatar
    Huntindog
    Explorer
    Sep 12, 2016
    rbpru wrote:
    The TT manufacturers put over a million STs on the road every year on their tow behinds and 5vers.


    That is hardly a testament to quality. The industry as a whole is not generally considered to be high quality... Many threads about this right here on this forum.

    OTOH... Many high end manufacturers DO spec their units with LTs as either standard equipment, or as an optional upgrade.

    A fact that I KNOW from previous posts that you are AWARE of and have NOT disputed, but never bring up in these discussions.

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