Ford 6.7L 1050 ft lbs TQ at 1,600 rpm, 475 HP at 2,800 rpm

Lynnmor wrote:

Slowmover wrote:
2004 Dodge 555TQ quarter-mile = 16.8 seconds

2019 Ram 1000TQ quarter-mile = 16.4 seconds.

Is the Ford doing 12’s, or is the story the same?

Since horsepower is the measure of work that is done, why the TQ stuff?

Where’s the meat? What justifies the expense? It costs 2-3X as much but it’s still no quicker than before DESPITE paper number increases. Where’s the decrease in fuel burn as the offset?

How many cooling systems? Expected maintenance cost over its 350k life? Price per mile of operation? It’s all higher and more difficult.

Where’s the technological advantage (leverage) that reduces operational cost against higher purchase price? As that’s the criteria for replacing a tired vehicle. Otherwise, fix it up and soldier on.

I was hauling 22k trailers with that earlier version. 300k miles of get-it-there-yesterday oilfield.

Are you (anyone) going to tell me, “well, it’s faster up the hill”(?). You’ll get silence in return as that’s not worth a reply. That’s for the Utube stoopids.

You guys aren’t getting any better solo mileage in some cases than I am when bobtail in a 21,000-lb Peterbilt at highway speeds. Twice as heavy with twice the motor. Over 12-feet tall. Man, is that a laugh, or what?

I have days where, with no adverse winds and 30k in the box (55k gross), I’m still in double-digits at 66-mph. Automated manual and never off cruise. Think about that when I pass you.

The price and “performance “ of these trucks is a joke. You’ve been had.

Start over. At the end that matters: the trailer.

It’s telling that a common complaint I’ve seen the past sixteen years on this forum is that a trailer designed to travel 250k miles (6-7X farther than a stapled box) before re-build and to have reduced HP demand all the while, “doesn’t have enough interior room”. You are going camping. Shirt sleeve weather. Being in the great outdoors. . How big a bed do you need? Or chair? Why would anyone want more space to heat, clean and cool? Trailers of my type don’t in the least lack for space or amenities.

Know how to tell a **** RV at a glance? The high ratio of floor footage against window area. And the lousy interior sightlines from any seated position.

It’s the lifetime of the trailer that matters (some recent post about having bought five —FIVE—RVs over thirty years!? Could have had just one. Paid for it long ago. Used it right to the end), as the expense of ownership drops with every year of use. Minimal maintenance.

I have all of $30k into the combined price of my rig. Knew what to buy and how to buy it (cash). Knew what I’d need to do or not to maintain factory quality in furnishings. So if I wind up having spent double that, (take me awhile to figure out HOW), I still only have $60k into both. And all my ownership costs are lower. On an RV with a lifespan as long or longer than my own.

If I decided I wanted to I could probably pass any of you while on the road. With more control at every extra mph. (Aero has huge advantages).

What’s the least stable towed RV on the market? A fifth wheel with 4WD pulling it. The only one actually worse is a JACKED UP 4WD yanking a tail-heavy “toyhauler”. Passing everyone without the first clue of how to do it. Good thing most of you don’t have or use a CB. Hearing, “Baby Daddy southbound and flying at the 377-MM”, means only one thing: none of those poor children has a father.

What? You don’t believe me? Tell you what, you run along at 62mph or so and I’ll come in so close with my rig you’ll ****. And I’ll have another directly behind me do the same. With a box truck as finale. At 75+. My RV will stay upright. Yours won’t. (As that’s pretty much jail time and career-ending, the only reason you haven’t experienced it has been partly luck. As it does happen).

Detroit & Elkhart aren’t your friends. They exist to take as much they can. The used market offers a lot more than anyone in this thread has bothered to explore.

The number of couples who GET OUT OF using an RV before age catches up (75) is very likely tied to the ever-higher expense of enjoying what should be a pleasure.

Travel farther. See more. Do it all for less. Bye-bye worries. (
What a concept! Economy!)

Is there a high correlation between the DISH/Netflix subscribers and to threads like this? The whole low IQ thing? Because what you expend on dancing at the end of the advertising string could have gone elsewhere. Go to the back pages of this site. Or a diesel pickup forum. See yourself in the same threads on, “the new Porky Pig for 1998!!”

Trash the TV. Once, and finally.

(I’m damned if I know how we traveled the whole of the US, much of Canada and Mexico without TV as I was growing up. Doesn’t occur to me now it’s worth it either, as last I looked it’s even worse. Why was it the government was giving vouchers at the time of the analog to digital changeover? Get a clue. Please. Then — just maybe — you’ll see that those windowless walls aren’t bearable without your babysitter).

1,000-TQ. What a load of rubbish.

If “performance” matters to you — you say — then you’d all know the top shops for antilock disc brake & independent suspension retrofit. You don’t, thus, your words to the contrary, it doesn’t.

(Another part of performance is fuel burn. I explained at length a few years back — twice, I think, — how to modify fuel use the rest of the year TO PAY EVERY CENT OF 5,000-MILE VACATION FUEL. Know how many PMs I got inquiring farther? Ha!).

If after this you think that I don’t like you or other RV’ers, that’s pitiful. I’ve had more than fifty years experience and used that time to think on it. Watch people come and go. And there’s no end of sadness in watching the thing fade away in them. It does.

Wise up.