Ford 6.7L Powerstroke V8 Diesel

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


Now find me 10, 15 or 20 more and you will have something Troy. Or even several posts of runaway Dmax engines. Not going to happen.


The bottom line is this OP.

There are problems with certain engines. Like take for instance the LB7 GM diesel. They WILL have injector failures. Why? Because of the junk Bosch injectors. They are junk! And expensive to replace in this engine. This engine will have this failure because it was a design flaw. If the injectors were not replaced in this engine I would not recommend you buy one used if it had factory injectors in it. Too much of a risk.

The 6.7 Ford from 2011 to 2014 had tons of turbo problems. The turbo WILL fail just like the LB7 injectors did. Why? Because the turbo was a duel wheel design that was JUNK! Ford saw the error of their ways and fixed the turbo with a single wheel design. That ended that problem for ever.

2011 through 2014 also had junk CP4 pumps. This is not only a Ford problem GM put the same JUNK pump on their engines. The thing was GM warranteed their pumps for the most part and Ford did not. This is well documented. Ram did not worry about this because they used the older design pump that was pretty bullet proof.

Along with the other problems I listed above they had bearing problems also. Ford decided to not put bearing retention tangs on the main bearing. Really DUMB move. Although nothing like the amount of turbo failures, they still had a few lower end bearing failures.

People that say they have x amount of miles on Y brand mean nothing. I have over 140,000 miles on a 5.7 diesel with 0 problems. That means nothing because the engines are JUNK plain and simple.

Don't listen to the fan boys on here. Go on any Ford forum and look for failure trends. This will mean more than ANYBODY on here including myself.

T&P, not sure if you have a 5.9 or 6.7, but 140K is just broken in, wait until you get to 292K!!

mach8274 wrote:
OK...my turn. I had a 2011 F250 6.7L Power Stroke. Bought it in Feb of 2011 and put 48k miles on it. Coming home from a camping trip a few weeks ago, the engine started knocking. Had it towed to my dealer and after tear down, it spun 2 rod bearings. Engine was replaced under warranty and I was back in business within a week. I did trade the truck after I got it back from the engine replacement though. I traded because we were overweight while towing. I now have a 2016 F350 DRW 6.7L Power Stroke. I loved my 2011 and judging by what I've read, will love the 2016 even more with the upgraded turbo and engine braking.

That being said, there have been a few comments on cab removal for the new trucks...that is FALSE!! The cab never came off of my truck. Engine is removed through the front, similar to the older 7.3L trucks.

The engine issues with the 6.7L have been primarily with early build trucks. My 2011 was built in August 2010. There have been broken crank shafts, dropped valves, turbo issues(cab and chassis) and glow plugs coming apart. The tech I talked to said this was the first time they have ever heard of them with a spun bearing.

I know, I just gave the Dodge fanboys more ammo, but I feel that my experience was an exception. I am confident in these trucks, that's why I bought another one. So far, for the most part, they have been excellent trucks.

:h:S

Wow, Blue Kool-Ade at full potency, 48 K and engine failure! Please give me another sir!!!

I was a true Blue Ford man for 45 years, did get DD a 19?? Dasher Diesel in that time period, but True Blue. Then I needed to get a better TV, my choice was a Cummins engine, darn Doge wrapper. Well both have exceed my expectations!
Our Ram 2500 pulls/carries our 12,360# 5er like a champ!
Currently, at 292,500 miles, you can see how my engine is doing in the "Ram 3500 Oil Change thread" in Tow vehicles , early and current oil analysis, still doing well. Likely will take this rig to 500,00 k.

I just don't understand one that will go back to a TV that filed then at such low mileage?

mach8274 wrote:
OK...my turn. I had a 2011 F250 6.7L Power Stroke. Bought it in Feb of 2011 and put 48k miles on it. Coming home from a camping trip a few weeks ago, the engine started knocking. Had it towed to my dealer and after tear down, it spun 2 rod bearings. Engine was replaced under warranty and I was back in business within a week. I did trade the truck after I got it back from the engine replacement though. I traded because we were overweight while towing. I now have a 2016 F350 DRW 6.7L Power Stroke. I loved my 2011 and judging by what I've read, will love the 2016 even more with the upgraded turbo and engine braking.

That being said, there have been a few comments on cab removal for the new trucks...that is FALSE!! The cab never came off of my truck. Engine is removed through the front, similar to the older 7.3L trucks.

The engine issues with the 6.7L have been primarily with early build trucks. My 2011 was built in August 2010. There have been broken crank shafts, dropped valves, turbo issues(cab and chassis) and glow plugs coming apart. The tech I talked to said this was the first time they have ever heard of them with a spun bearing.

I know, I just gave the Dodge fanboys more ammo, but I feel that my experience was an exception. I am confident in these trucks, that's why I bought another one. So far, for the most part, they have been excellent trucks.

I'm glad to hear Ford looked after you with warranty. Did they give any indication as to what caused the bearing failure?

FishOnOne wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
I've had no issues from my '15. Lots of power and it pulls my fifth wheel effortlessly. It's also very easy to maintain with how they locate all the filters. I changed both fuel filters and the air filter in 10-15 minutes not too long ago. I'd buy again in a second if I had to.

I just changed my oil and oil filter this afternoon on my Power Stroke. Took all of 20 minutes tops. Nice thing is there's no crazy gimmicks to cap the oil filter, no saran wrap, no removing the air filter tubing non sense. Just a simple unscrew oil filter and drop it into the oil pan like God intended. :B

That's great to hear that Ford made things so easy!!

I heard that since the 6.Oh and 6.4 problem Ford started to make changing engines much easier for the mechanic for the 6.7. Like turbo's that are held onto the engine with 1/4 turn fasteners so when they blow the turbo's are easy to R&R.

The valve covers and heads now come with Dzus fasteners so when the valve heads start falling off of the stems they are not too bad to change out.


The radiators now come with quick disconnects on the hoses so when the radiator takes a dump you can change it on the road. and your vacation is saved.

The glow plugs that fall off into the cylinder are pretty easy to replace, but it will take out the entire engine.

Anyway it's good to see Ford is making things easier for the mechanics and homeowners like you Fish. :B

You forgot another failure... Link

Oooppps wrong brand.... :B


You forgot they're also making things easier for service managers too... Now they can manage less diesel mechanics.

Now find me 10, 15 or 20 more and you will have something Troy. Or even several posts of runaway Dmax engines. Not going to happen.


The bottom line is this OP.

There are problems with certain engines. Like take for instance the LB7 GM diesel. They WILL have injector failures. Why? Because of the junk Bosch injectors. They are junk! And expensive to replace in this engine. This engine will have this failure because it was a design flaw. If the injectors were not replaced in this engine I would not recommend you buy one used if it had factory injectors in it. Too much of a risk.

The 6.7 Ford from 2011 to 2014 had tons of turbo problems. The turbo WILL fail just like the LB7 injectors did. Why? Because the turbo was a duel wheel design that was JUNK! Ford saw the error of their ways and fixed the turbo with a single wheel design. That ended that problem for ever.

2011 through 2014 also had junk CP4 pumps. This is not only a Ford problem GM put the same JUNK pump on their engines. The thing was GM warranteed their pumps for the most part and Ford did not. This is well documented. Ram did not worry about this because they used the older design pump that was pretty bullet proof.

Along with the other problems I listed above they had bearing problems also. Ford decided to not put bearing retention tangs on the main bearing. Really DUMB move. Although nothing like the amount of turbo failures, they still had a few lower end bearing failures.

People that say they have x amount of miles on Y brand mean nothing. I have over 140,000 miles on a 5.7 diesel with 0 problems. That means nothing because the engines are JUNK plain and simple.

Don't listen to the fan boys on here. Go on any Ford forum and look for failure trends. This will mean more than ANYBODY on here including myself.

Dave, your experience just reinforces the point that a warranty is must on all three of these trucks. Anyone that does anything that jeopardizes their warranty has a heck of a lot more money to burn than I do.

Chris

FishOnOne wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Chad Brooks wrote:
How long would it take you to change the engine drive belt?

What's an engine drive belt????

All the important stuff on my Cummins 5.9 is gear driven. :B

Serpentine belt for alternator, water pump, power steering pump. I'll probably have mine changed at 150k miles when I have the transmission serviced.

Sure that it also doesn't run the Vacuum pump and the CP4?

I have a serpentine belt also, but only runs AC, alternator and water pump! Injection pump, PS, Vacuum are all gear driven.

OK...my turn. I had a 2011 F250 6.7L Power Stroke. Bought it in Feb of 2011 and put 48k miles on it. Coming home from a camping trip a few weeks ago, the engine started knocking. Had it towed to my dealer and after tear down, it spun 2 rod bearings. Engine was replaced under warranty and I was back in business within a week. I did trade the truck after I got it back from the engine replacement though. I traded because we were overweight while towing. I now have a 2016 F350 DRW 6.7L Power Stroke. I loved my 2011 and judging by what I've read, will love the 2016 even more with the upgraded turbo and engine braking.

That being said, there have been a few comments on cab removal for the new trucks...that is FALSE!! The cab never came off of my truck. Engine is removed through the front, similar to the older 7.3L trucks.

The engine issues with the 6.7L have been primarily with early build trucks. My 2011 was built in August 2010. There have been broken crank shafts, dropped valves, turbo issues(cab and chassis) and glow plugs coming apart. The tech I talked to said this was the first time they have ever heard of them with a spun bearing.

I know, I just gave the Dodge fanboys more ammo, but I feel that my experience was an exception. I am confident in these trucks, that's why I bought another one. So far, for the most part, they have been excellent trucks.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
I've had no issues from my '15. Lots of power and it pulls my fifth wheel effortlessly. It's also very easy to maintain with how they locate all the filters. I changed both fuel filters and the air filter in 10-15 minutes not too long ago. I'd buy again in a second if I had to.

I just changed my oil and oil filter this afternoon on my Power Stroke. Took all of 20 minutes tops. Nice thing is there's no crazy gimmicks to cap the oil filter, no saran wrap, no removing the air filter tubing non sense. Just a simple unscrew oil filter and drop it into the oil pan like God intended. :B

That's great to hear that Ford made things so easy!!

I heard that since the 6.Oh and 6.4 problem Ford started to make changing engines much easier for the mechanic for the 6.7. Like turbo's that are held onto the engine with 1/4 turn fasteners so when they blow the turbo's are easy to R&R.

The valve covers and heads now come with Dzus fasteners so when the valve heads start falling off of the stems they are not too bad to change out.


The radiators now come with quick disconnects on the hoses so when the radiator takes a dump you can change it on the road. and your vacation is saved.

The glow plugs that fall off into the cylinder are pretty easy to replace, but it will take out the entire engine.

Anyway it's good to see Ford is making things easier for the mechanics and homeowners like you Fish. :B

ROTFLMAO
I think Ford also eliminated almost half the bolts for a cab off repair in 2011 forward MY. Less time means more profit for someone :B

rhagfo wrote:

Chad Brooks wrote:
How long would it take you to change the engine drive belt?

What's an engine drive belt????

All the important stuff on my Cummins 5.9 is gear driven. :B

Serpentine belt for alternator, water pump, power steering pump. I'll probably have mine changed at 150k miles when I have the transmission serviced.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
I've had no issues from my '15. Lots of power and it pulls my fifth wheel effortlessly. It's also very easy to maintain with how they locate all the filters. I changed both fuel filters and the air filter in 10-15 minutes not too long ago. I'd buy again in a second if I had to.

I just changed my oil and oil filter this afternoon on my Power Stroke. Took all of 20 minutes tops. Nice thing is there's no crazy gimmicks to cap the oil filter, no saran wrap, no removing the air filter tubing non sense. Just a simple unscrew oil filter and drop it into the oil pan like God intended. :B

That's great to hear that Ford made things so easy!!

I heard that since the 6.Oh and 6.4 problem Ford started to make changing engines much easier for the mechanic for the 6.7. Like turbo's that are held onto the engine with 1/4 turn fasteners so when they blow the turbo's are easy to R&R.

The valve covers and heads now come with Dzus fasteners so when the valve heads start falling off of the stems they are not too bad to change out.


The radiators now come with quick disconnects on the hoses so when the radiator takes a dump you can change it on the road. and your vacation is saved.

The glow plugs that fall off into the cylinder are pretty easy to replace, but it will take out the entire engine.

Anyway it's good to see Ford is making things easier for the mechanics and homeowners like you Fish. :B

You forgot another failure... Link

Oooppps wrong brand.... :B


You forgot they're also making things easier for service managers too... Now they can manage less diesel mechanics.