Ford 6.7L Powerstroke V8 Diesel

Here's a recent 6.7 PSD that was traded in with ~800k miles. Engine and transmission hasn't been touched.

davidaf wrote:
Late to the party but I'll offer my opinion just the same.

I owned a 2015 for 17k miles. If you get a good one it's a fantastic engine and truck. Pulls hard, unloaded foot to pedal response is excellent, breaks great, stable as a goat. Now if you get a bad one like I did, it's will bleed you dry or waste a ton of your time getting towed to the shop between the good experiences (or both as was my experience). I dumped mine at a big loss to get back on the road and stay on the road. Miss it every time I tow. Don't miss it every time I actually want to make it to my destination.

Why does that sound like the 6.0

Late to the party but I'll offer my opinion just the same.

I owned a 2015 for 17k miles. If you get a good one it's a fantastic engine and truck. Pulls hard, unloaded foot to pedal response is excellent, breaks great, stable as a goat. Now if you get a bad one like I did, it's will bleed you dry or waste a ton of your time getting towed to the shop between the good experiences (or both as was my experience). I dumped mine at a big loss to get back on the road and stay on the road. Miss it every time I tow. Don't miss it every time I actually want to make it to my destination.

Bird Freak wrote:

I keep thinking that maybe just maybe you little boys will grow up and play nice in your sand boxes.

Its called an inferiority complex. According to the Webster dictionary its an acute sense of personal inferiority often resulting either in timidity or through overcompensation in exaggerated aggressiveness.


It helps explain why there's so many other posters commenting on a Ford engine when they drive another brand and why they attack every thread in such numbers and ferocity. But if you sing praises to their personal choice, then they'll accept your arguments as fact. It happens all the time in politics today.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
So Troy your comparing an 05 Dmax with a blown head gasket to 2011 on up 6.7's PSD!!

Ooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk.

Why not try and compare an 05 Dmax to an 05 PSD!!! LOL link

But then again you live in an alternate universe where up is down, hot is cold and the 6.0 has better reliability than a Cummins!

Why not? you Fiat boys do it all the time with the 6.0
I keep thinking that maybe just maybe you little boys will grow up and play nice in your sand boxes.

FishOnOne wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

mach8274 wrote:
OK...my turn. I had a 2011 F250 6.7L Power Stroke. Bought it in Feb of 2011 and put 48k miles on it. Coming home from a camping trip a few weeks ago, the engine started knocking. Had it towed to my dealer and after tear down, it spun 2 rod bearings. Engine was replaced under warranty and I was back in business within a week. I did trade the truck after I got it back from the engine replacement though. I traded because we were overweight while towing. I now have a 2016 F350 DRW 6.7L Power Stroke. I loved my 2011 and judging by what I've read, will love the 2016 even more with the upgraded turbo and engine braking.

That being said, there have been a few comments on cab removal for the new trucks...that is FALSE!! The cab never came off of my truck. Engine is removed through the front, similar to the older 7.3L trucks.

The engine issues with the 6.7L have been primarily with early build trucks. My 2011 was built in August 2010. There have been broken crank shafts, dropped valves, turbo issues(cab and chassis) and glow plugs coming apart. The tech I talked to said this was the first time they have ever heard of them with a spun bearing.

I know, I just gave the Dodge fanboys more ammo, but I feel that my experience was an exception. I am confident in these trucks, that's why I bought another one. So far, for the most part, they have been excellent trucks.

:h:S

Wow, Blue Kool-Ade at full potency, 48 K and engine failure! Please give me another sir!!!

I was a true Blue Ford man for 45 years, did get DD a 19?? Dasher Diesel in that time period, but True Blue. Then I needed to get a better TV, my choice was a Cummins engine, darn Doge wrapper. Well both have exceed my expectations!
Our Ram 2500 pulls/carries our 12,360# 5er like a champ!
Currently, at 292,500 miles, you can see how my engine is doing in the "Ram 3500 Oil Change thread" in Tow vehicles , early and current oil analysis, still doing well. Likely will take this rig to 500,00 k.

I just don't understand one that will go back to a TV that filed then at such low mileage?

Here's an cummins with a hole in the block at 5k miles.... Are you suggesting he shouldn't go back to a cummins since it failed at a measly 5k miles?

Please advise... :W

Link

Yep the owner did the smart thing when hearing a strange noise coming from the engine!!
"Told him I would have to post these on the FTE......

Little noisy coming home from the firehouse in the morning, revved it up in the driveway and made a mess of the asphalt. :S
5000 miles"

So Troy your comparing an 05 Dmax with a blown head gasket to 2011 on up 6.7's PSD!!

Ooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk.

Why not try and compare an 05 Dmax to an 05 PSD!!! LOL link

But then again you live in an alternate universe where up is down, hot is cold and the 6.0 has better reliability than a Cummins!

rhagfo wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Chad Brooks wrote:
How long would it take you to change the engine drive belt?

What's an engine drive belt????

All the important stuff on my Cummins 5.9 is gear driven. :B

Serpentine belt for alternator, water pump, power steering pump. I'll probably have mine changed at 150k miles when I have the transmission serviced.

Sure that it also doesn't run the Vacuum pump and the CP4?

I have a serpentine belt also, but only runs AC, alternator and water pump! Injection pump, PS, Vacuum are all gear driven.

I'm 100% positive that the vacuum pump and the HPFP is gear driven. Sorry to disappoint... but to question something so basic does question your knowledge and blind loyalty.

And to add yes I've been a died in the wool GM guy (especially the older GM's) but when it was time to go with a diesel I went with a Ford and haven't looked back due to great liability and durability.

rhagfo wrote:

mach8274 wrote:
OK...my turn. I had a 2011 F250 6.7L Power Stroke. Bought it in Feb of 2011 and put 48k miles on it. Coming home from a camping trip a few weeks ago, the engine started knocking. Had it towed to my dealer and after tear down, it spun 2 rod bearings. Engine was replaced under warranty and I was back in business within a week. I did trade the truck after I got it back from the engine replacement though. I traded because we were overweight while towing. I now have a 2016 F350 DRW 6.7L Power Stroke. I loved my 2011 and judging by what I've read, will love the 2016 even more with the upgraded turbo and engine braking.

That being said, there have been a few comments on cab removal for the new trucks...that is FALSE!! The cab never came off of my truck. Engine is removed through the front, similar to the older 7.3L trucks.

The engine issues with the 6.7L have been primarily with early build trucks. My 2011 was built in August 2010. There have been broken crank shafts, dropped valves, turbo issues(cab and chassis) and glow plugs coming apart. The tech I talked to said this was the first time they have ever heard of them with a spun bearing.

I know, I just gave the Dodge fanboys more ammo, but I feel that my experience was an exception. I am confident in these trucks, that's why I bought another one. So far, for the most part, they have been excellent trucks.

:h:S

Wow, Blue Kool-Ade at full potency, 48 K and engine failure! Please give me another sir!!!

I was a true Blue Ford man for 45 years, did get DD a 19?? Dasher Diesel in that time period, but True Blue. Then I needed to get a better TV, my choice was a Cummins engine, darn Doge wrapper. Well both have exceed my expectations!
Our Ram 2500 pulls/carries our 12,360# 5er like a champ!
Currently, at 292,500 miles, you can see how my engine is doing in the "Ram 3500 Oil Change thread" in Tow vehicles , early and current oil analysis, still doing well. Likely will take this rig to 500,00 k.

I just don't understand one that will go back to a TV that filed then at such low mileage?

Here's an cummins with a hole in the block at 5k miles.... Are you suggesting he shouldn't go back to a cummins since it failed at a measly 5k miles?

Please advise... :W

Link

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
I've had no issues from my '15. Lots of power and it pulls my fifth wheel effortlessly. It's also very easy to maintain with how they locate all the filters. I changed both fuel filters and the air filter in 10-15 minutes not too long ago. I'd buy again in a second if I had to.

I just changed my oil and oil filter this afternoon on my Power Stroke. Took all of 20 minutes tops. Nice thing is there's no crazy gimmicks to cap the oil filter, no saran wrap, no removing the air filter tubing non sense. Just a simple unscrew oil filter and drop it into the oil pan like God intended. :B

That's great to hear that Ford made things so easy!!

I heard that since the 6.Oh and 6.4 problem Ford started to make changing engines much easier for the mechanic for the 6.7. Like turbo's that are held onto the engine with 1/4 turn fasteners so when they blow the turbo's are easy to R&R.

The valve covers and heads now come with Dzus fasteners so when the valve heads start falling off of the stems they are not too bad to change out.


The radiators now come with quick disconnects on the hoses so when the radiator takes a dump you can change it on the road. and your vacation is saved.

The glow plugs that fall off into the cylinder are pretty easy to replace, but it will take out the entire engine.

Anyway it's good to see Ford is making things easier for the mechanics and homeowners like you Fish. :B

You forgot another failure... Link

Oooppps wrong brand.... :B


You forgot they're also making things easier for service managers too... Now they can manage less diesel mechanics.

Now find me 10, 15 or 20 more and you will have something Troy. Or even several posts of runaway Dmax engines. Not going to happen.


The bottom line is this OP.

There are problems with certain engines. Like take for instance the LB7 GM diesel. They WILL have injector failures. Why? Because of the junk Bosch injectors. They are junk! And expensive to replace in this engine. This engine will have this failure because it was a design flaw. If the injectors were not replaced in this engine I would not recommend you buy one used if it had factory injectors in it. Too much of a risk.

The 6.7 Ford from 2011 to 2014 had tons of turbo problems. The turbo WILL fail just like the LB7 injectors did. Why? Because the turbo was a duel wheel design that was JUNK! Ford saw the error of their ways and fixed the turbo with a single wheel design. That ended that problem for ever.

2011 through 2014 also had junk CP4 pumps. This is not only a Ford problem GM put the same JUNK pump on their engines. The thing was GM warranteed their pumps for the most part and Ford did not. This is well documented. Ram did not worry about this because they used the older design pump that was pretty bullet proof.

Along with the other problems I listed above they had bearing problems also. Ford decided to not put bearing retention tangs on the main bearing. Really DUMB move. Although nothing like the amount of turbo failures, they still had a few lower end bearing failures.

People that say they have x amount of miles on Y brand mean nothing. I have over 140,000 miles on a 5.7 diesel with 0 problems. That means nothing because the engines are JUNK plain and simple.

Don't listen to the fan boys on here. Go on any Ford forum and look for failure trends. This will mean more than ANYBODY on here including myself.

Turtle,
I speak/communicate with several Ford and cummins diesel techs with one being my cousin. One has even stated he hardly works on the 6.7 PSD (RIP Dieseltechron). Even my current truck at 4 years and 93k miles it has yet to see a wrench except for the lug nuts... Just remember that the 6.7 Power Stroke has 75% of the diesel engine market and the Duramax has ~10% so the internet chatter is not statistically the same. But in the spirit of your request I'm posing a link to a Duramax failure close to home. I will say my parents still have their 05 Duramax and it's been a good truck, but it's no where near the towing performance as my Power Stroke.
Best Regards,
Fish :B

Duramax Headgasket Failure