I have no hate for Ford or their 7.3 gas engine, Nearly every in depth article compares how the 7.3 as a very close copy of the LS. The LS has been out for many years I doubt there are many patients that are still active. The LS works and I dont blame them for building their version of it. The point I was making is that it wasnt a technological marvel in creating it. I think I have been pretty consistent, other than the 6.0 Diesel discussions, I really keep to myself on these types of discussions.