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dodge guy wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
Learjet wrote:
I'm use to 900 Tq....don't know if I can go back to almost half of that :(
Just drop down a gear or two...the rear axle will never know the difference.
Unless you are pushing the very upper limits of the tow ratings and doing lots of mountain driving...the modern gas engines are overkill (diesel is just more overkill).
Ughhh! It does’t work like that!
^^^ yep...I had a Ford 6.2 Gaser before this truck....I know the difference.valhalla360 wrote:
Learjet wrote:
I'm use to 900 Tq....don't know if I can go back to almost half of that :(
Just drop down a gear or two...the rear axle will never know the difference.
Unless you are pushing the very upper limits of the tow ratings and doing lots of mountain driving...the modern gas engines are overkill (diesel is just more overkill).
Ughhh! It does’t work like that!valhalla360 wrote:
True That!Learjet wrote:
I'm use to 900 Tq....don't know if I can go back to almost half of that :(
Just drop down a gear or two...the rear axle will never know the difference.
Unless you are pushing the very upper limits of the tow ratings and doing lots of mountain driving...the modern gas engines are overkill (diesel is just more overkill).Learjet wrote:
I'm use to 900 Tq....don't know if I can go back to almost half of that :(
Just drop down a gear or two...the rear axle will never know the difference.
Unless you are pushing the very upper limits of the tow ratings and doing lots of mountain driving...the modern gas engines are overkill (diesel is just more overkill).ShinerBock wrote:
In my co-workers case, it wasn't that the $8k upfront cost was too expensive for him since he gladly spent $11k on another option for the truck. It is just that the bells and whistles option was more important to him than towing performance and fuel efficient option. Both are options on the truck just as anything else, it just matters which is more important to you.
This is why I never understand how people who have high trim level gasers say that the diesel option is too expensive. If their reason was that they don't want a diesel option then that is fine, but don't say that it is too expensive of an option when you are willing to pay even more for another option. It doesn't make any sense. I would choose the diesel option with the base trim level over a gaser with a high trim level, but my priorities are different.
But top of line trim plus diesel isn't $11k more...it's $19k more.- Good response from the Ford spokesperson! Making good power/torque at low rpm is what makes a good TV. Ford's 6.2 has pretty good power down low, but also runs quiet and smooth when high rpm is needed.
The Ford Ecoboost engines are a good example of low rpm power, and IMO, what has made them a huge success. While many V6 engines are making high HP/TQ, most are doing it at high rpm (5000-6500). Many just look at the HP, thinking this will tow as much as my old big block V8.
Jerry - Here's a good article with a nice quote from the end if you don't want to read the whole thing.
https://jalopnik.com/why-the-ford-super-duty-s-7-3-liter-v8-makes-only-430-h-1836880836
When asked about the power, a Ford spokesperson responded, “The focus for the 7.3-liter was total capability as delivered in vehicle. We have class-leading peak torque, but we valued capability from 1,500 rpm on up over obtaining an even larger advertised peak torque. All versions of the 7.3-liter are capable of delivering over 400 ft-lbs from 1,500 rpm on up. We believe this large amount of torque from low engine speeds is exactly what a heavily loaded vehicle needs for good drivability.” - If I'm recalling correctly I think one of the earlier viedos on this engine said that the fuel mileage would be better than the 6.2. I'm sure there will be some teething problems with this engine but I don't expect them to be many or very serious.
I loved that torque chart. - This talk of what options are "must have" makes me laugh. $8-11000 options? I was spending 50-80 hours a week in a '95 LTL9000 with the "top of the line" interior, and missing the earlier truck that I could just wipe down the dash and door panels, maybe need to hose of the floor if had to get out on a muddy site. (Plus the other truck could haul half ton more and be legal.) Decided I needed a new pickup to replace the 20YO Ford that pulled the camper. But wanted something I could feed the other 90% of time it was not towing. Stop at Ford dealer, salesman a donkey. Chevy, another donkey. Never owned a Dodge, but when I asked the salesman a question, his answer was "I don't know, I will go find out." Buy the end of the day I drove out with a brand new pickup, that for nearly 15 years and counting has done everything I have asked of it. You want the window down, you push a button. I want a window open, I turn a crank.
I don't want all the FREDs, I want transportation. My out the door price? $12000.
